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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    FFXI battles were more fun while FFXIV is more frustrating. Always some guy that can't dodge causing the group to wipe for hours.

    Example -

    FFXI - Kirin - Summons 4 gods bosses, Genbu (Slow Turtle, hits hard, invincible), Suzaku (high evasion bird, chainspell firagas), Seiryu (Dragon, 100 fist, wind spells), Byakko (White tiger, perfect dodge, banish spells, high eva). -snip-
    Then you find out someone didn't learn the Stun skill from drk on rdm because you had to manually learn skills on there. Some being store bought, others being drops that could be bought on MB for pretty high prices depending on the spell and varying on server of course. Sometimes there were cases with preferred subjobs not being open or not high enough too. >.>; (Lets not even get into skill levels that were low.)

    I've heard FFXI with some of its own tales. (even some about 'ninja looters' in statics.). @-@

    But I do find it a less to memorize, just more work to get there as a whole seeing you gotta actually level sub jobs, get the spells and level skill levels. (on a mage, for melees you just needed skill levels and subjobs.) :x

    Edit: To explain what skill level is, it's basically leveling and getting better at certain aspects or with certain weapons. So for example, if you were a red mage and wanted to level debuffing.. you'd debuff a monster a million times of almost equal level or higher of which your skill level is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
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    That why i enjoy FFXIV not only did FFXI had all the issue you said. But the fact that there was rules set by the players. Point system and even bidding where you waste said point to win a item then hope it drop from a mob that week. If it did not you would do it again next time. I just could not stand the low 1-30% drop system for most item in ffxi i enjoy the hell out of it and i would still say COP was the best storyline enjoy the endgame. But once you play FFXIV and all you do is memorize and dps check it's pretty simple.

    So ya i take memorize mobs move which only happen every % of HP 80,50,30 or w/e they set it too with a guarantee 2 random item with a simple set rule by the party of main/sub. So even if there someone else with the same job in your party you can gear up 2 jobs within a few months. That what i did for 1-5 coil and that what i going to do again for 6-9 and most coil gear is not the best so i get a 100% guarantee i getting gear by buying it with tomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    Then you find out someone didn't learn the Stun skill from drk on rdm because you had to manually learn skills on there. Some being store bought, others being drops that could be bought on MB for pretty high prices depending on the spell and varying on server of course. Sometimes there were cases with preferred subjobs not being open or not high enough too. >.>; (Lets not even get into skill levels that were low.)
    All that stuff you mentioned I find fun and enjoy doing though. Leveling subjobs to improve your versatility, having things to look forward to buying on auction house, certain skills needed or makes battles easier, etc. FFXIV right not is pretty bland and rigid. Just look at gear like say for whm. The secondary stats don't matter much at all and there's nothing unique about them. There's nothing to look forward to except gear that add more of the plain stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    A Healer's LB is instant compared to a damage LB that takes time to execute. It's safer to pop a Healer LB especially now that res has an immunity timer.
    Doesn't matter if they are instant or not when DD lbs are the best route to go due to all the DPS checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    All that stuff you mentioned I find fun and enjoy doing though. Leveling subjobs to improve your versatility, having things to look forward to buying on auction house, certain skills needed or makes battles easier, etc. FFXIV right not is pretty bland and rigid. Just look at gear like say for whm. The secondary stats don't matter much at all and there's nothing unique about them. There's nothing to look forward to except gear that add more of the plain stats.
    I agree, a lot more is straightforward here and jobs aren't as flexible as a dps class being able to tank because one skill/spell avoids dmg. :x

    I also agree some of it was quite enjoyable but I do like FFXIV and some of it's straightforward ways as well.

    I like that I don't have to spend hours collecting 200 necklaces or 100 ores to get a single spell... I mean back then it was fun but now? I can't really find the hours to spend like that so I rather be bland and straightforward, using some of my hours than to use a ton of hours to get anywhere really.

    I also didn't like feeling the need to subjob a certain job to do endgame because that was the more common method but thats a different topic and a rather more personal feelers subject there that I won't get into.

    (Yeah I know theres 'one path' normally for healers and other classes but least you could go 30 vit w/ all mind gear or hybrid sch/smn bonus stats with gear you need.)
    :/


    Edit: Nope I won't say then quit the game if ffxiv is bland btw, I personally feel we are having a friendly debate on different views about two different games and well you like one more than the other. (Just felt like pointing that out seeing the more likely comment would be "then go back to ffxi if you like it so much" or something like that?) I really respect your opinions and personal feelings, I just see it a bit differently is all.
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