Changing Class in Dungeons

[Gnova]

I've dealt with this mechanic in DCUO.
Someone queues as a tank or healer to get a quick instance pop and then switches to dps.
More often than not one of the dps then agree to switch to heals rather than wait even longer for another healer.
The abuser gets a fast queue time and makes someone who has waited patiently to play as DPS switch to something they didn't want to play.

If someone was to do this three or four times before not getting kicked they would still get a group much quicker as a dps.

Everyone should realize in 2014 that if a MMO mechanic can be abused/exploited it will.

[Altijacek]

Seriously just make it so that the person who changed jobs after the vote option will only be able to roll for the gear they originally intended. If I went DRG, healer left, and party votes to change me to white Mage, I can still only roll for DRG gear. Problem solved. Nobody has thought of this? :0

[Skivvy]

Seriously just make it so that the person who changed jobs after the vote option will only be able to roll for the gear they originally intended. If I went DRG, healer left, and party votes to change me to white Mage, I can still only roll for DRG gear. Problem solved. Nobody has thought of this? :0

This was mentioned on page one :X

[Delmontyb]

I support this idea under the conditions that you list, that would/could be very helpful.

[Delsus]

All party finder comments if this was added "DPS must have BLM and *insert one or more preferred melee here* *insert elitest comment calling anyone who doesn't have these jobs leveled a noob* There are a lot of ways this could break content, rather than compromising some in some places (for example using melee on a dungeon boss where ranged is better).

[rhemi1]

I swear, this game will never get any new features because this community is scared to death of 'abuse' which often comes in the form of incredibly contrived and ridiculously specific situations they just made up.

This is what they created the report feature for. Report people breaking the rules, move on, get over it and if you're still scared to death of random players, do what every other person does and make friends and run with them.

[Garlyle]

I swear, this game will never get any new features because this community is scared to death of 'abuse' which often comes in the form of incredibly contrived and ridiculously specific situations they just made up.

The abuse situation always has to be considered, whether you like it or not. Especially when it comes to player treatment towards others - an environment that feels ugly and unfriendly, in a game where you have to play with other people, will push players away faster than anything else you can do.

Telling people "just play with friends" isn't a solution either, especially for players who aren't online at primetime. I'm in one of the largest FCs on my server, but that doesn't mean there'll be more than 2-3 of us on when I'm playing at 2AM.

[Orophin]

I didn't like this in 1.0. It became a requirement to have x classes leveled to run the entire three dungeons we had just to make the runs 5 minutes faster. I know this isn't the intent of changing the system, but inevitably this is what will happen.

There are systems in place now to fill spots if people drop/dc/whatever. I don't think this really needs to change.

[Kerowyn]

I didn't like this in 1.0. It became a requirement to have x classes leveled to run the entire three dungeons we had just to make the runs 5 minutes faster. I know this isn't the intent of changing the system, but inevitably this is what will happen.

There are systems in place now to fill spots if people drop/dc/whatever. I don't think this really needs to change.

I think people are wanting this jut BECAUSE if a Tank or Healer quits a party it takes much longer for the DF to find a replacement for those classes than a DPS Class. Lets face it, not many tanks and healers ( including myself most of the time ) will Queue up in the DF with the Join in Progress Option checked. Theres a really good chance that by the time the new tank or healer loads in the groups already lost more party members. Cant even count the numbers of times that's happened to me when I've joined the Queue as a healer and I got in and the tank has already left.

[Delsus]

*snip*

Whilst the intent is good, it would be exploited by denying people who don't have certain jobs leveled, I can get any runs with my DRG, but that would change if this was added the basic would be BLMs only for trash, change to specific classes for the mini bosses then change back to BLM for more trash, and to specific jobs for the boss, just look at all brayflox HM myth speed runs all are BLM only just to kill aoe trash down it will be the same if class changes in dungeons were allowed (remember AV in 1.0, all BLMs for the run, and change to MNK for the boss? how does anyone think that will be different now?