Changing Class in Dungeons

[Daenerys_Sedai]

Not saying I disagree with you or that it's not possible to implement, just noting that there potential for abuse is there. Look at the Vote Kick option and how that was abused.

Scenario: FC group of 6 picks up 2 PUGs with a "Greed party." Let's say the two PUGs are healers and both are after heal gear. Prior to opening chest, group votes and allows say one of their DPS to change to heal who then rolls need. It's really not that far-fetched...

[Skivvy]

I think it would be great to allow you to change to (only) a missing job whenever your party is down a player (someone has dropped, etc). If you lose a tank or healer, change jobs and fill much quicker from the DPS queue. I really don't see any way this could be abused.

This is how I imagined it as well.

To prevent abuse, they could implement the following:

-Only allow a job change when a member is missing
-Make the party vote to approve the change
-Don't allow a job change when there is loot on the table

[Altijacek]

This is so easily solved XD...first off there would be the vote option. Secondly, the person switching would only be able to roll on the gear they initially went with. Bam. Abuse potential gone.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

This is so easily solved XD...first off there would be the vote option. Secondly, the person switching would only be able to roll on the gear they initially went with. Bam. Abuse potential gone.

Thinking about solutions is always good! A few comments regarding this:
1) The downside to this is taking away incentive for someone to change. For example, "well, I could change to tank but since I can't get tank gear at the end, why would I want to?"
2) There has never been this restriction (can only roll on gear that your current job can use) on dungeons generally speaking. There would be a lot of loot dropping to the floor, which--given the qqing re CT lockouts--is never a good. Dungeons would have to pre-load treasure chests with only gear that the party makeup can use. Even if that were possible, just think of all the QQing by DPS who have to compete with another pt member(s). Whereas, the healer(s) and tank(s) do not have the same type of competition.

Having the ability to roll on any loot is a good thing. It makes the tome grind less painful as I know that I can just GC-seal the DL drops that I have no use for.

[Jinko]

abuse potential is high. think chests, etc.

How can it be abused if people are suggesting a vote option.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

This is how it was in 1.0. Anyone could change classes at anytime. Which led to parties stacking one class for part of the dungeon then switching to another for a different part etc... Early on there was a dev post explaining why they were removing this from 2.0 but I don't remember the reasoning, but it has been addressed.

[Jinko]

This is how it was in 1.0. Anyone could change classes at anytime. Which led to parties stacking one class for part of the dungeon then switching to another for a different part etc... Early on there was a dev post explaining why they were removing this from 2.0 but I don't remember the reasoning, but it has been addressed.

Well that was more to do with that SE designed dungeons very poorly in 1.0, I don't see the same thing happening now.

[Skivvy]

This is so easily solved XD...first off there would be the vote option. Secondly, the person switching would only be able to roll on the gear they initially went with. Bam. Abuse potential gone.

I'm not really fond of this idea. This would just be something that the person changing jobs has to take into account. Personally speaking, I'd happily give up my ability to "need" on gear just to complete the dungeon. Some people may not want to give up that option, and in those cases, they would then just have to wait for someone to join-in-progress as normal.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

As you pointed twice, a vote function would partially solve this: "SasukeDevil999 DarkAngelSephirot wants to change from SCH to BRD - Do you accept this change?". Problem is... let's put it with an example. Pre-made 8-man party, 5/8 are friends. The boss dropped an item that is useful for one of them. Their friends (being the majority) vote for his friend and he changes his job. He loots. The other member got screwed. While the idea is good, I would apply it for DoH (or at least if they let you use their repair skills if you have those classes unlocked and leveled) so you can repair your gear during the run.

[Skivvy]

As you pointed twice, a vote function would partially solve this: "SasukeDevil999 DarkAngelSephirot wants to change from SCH to BRD - Do you accept this change?". Problem is... let's put it with an example. Pre-made 8-man party, 5/8 are friends. The boss dropped an item that is useful for one of them. Their friends (being the majority) vote for his friend and he changes his job. He loots. The other member got screwed. While the idea is good, I would apply it for DoH (or at least if they let you use their repair skills if you have those classes unlocked and leveled) so you can repair your gear during the run.

Don't allow job changes once loot is on the table. Easy fix.