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  1. #31
    Player
    Estellios's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Ul'dah
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    4,250
    Character
    Yoso Carrasco
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    As nice as Haste is, it's pretty much OP in every game it's in to the point where it becomes a necessity, and if it isn't a necessity then it makes fights trivial. If that happens then any future support jobs are going to need to have Haste just to be able to compete.

    You only really need to look at it in F11 to see why they are very hesitant about it.

    They released a headpiece for all jobs that had Haste on it and that became a required piece of gear for all jobs for several years. It was silly seeing everyone in-game with a turban.
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  2. #32
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    Cigaran's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
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    218
    Character
    Cigaran Lanarik
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSpecter View Post
    And that is why it needs more (job based) abilities! Having only 3 major songs is kinda lame.... 2 of which are only useful if coordinating with party. Which brings me to my next point! Army's Paeon, why is there no TP meter to see in game for PARTY?
    This. So very, very much this...
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  3. #33
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    Lstkaws's Avatar
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    Mar 2012
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    Character
    Tonup Coheed
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    It would be nice to have some more support abilities.

    As for the ones we have. You should only be using songs when necessary, which honestly isn't all that often. Keep foe up if there is a caster in the group and ballad if healer has low mp. If you are doing it right and have invigorate you should rarely (if ever) need paeon; I think I may have used it a couple times during brayflox speed runs. I have even had healers ask me to take ballad off because they can manage their MP pool and didn't want to hurt DPS (he/she was hell of a healer btw).

    I would love to see more useful songs, but the ones we have outside of foe (when a caster is in the group) are very situational. If you have a song up more than 50% of the time and there is no caster in the party; someone is doing something wrong.
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  4. #34
    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gridania
    Posts
    963
    Character
    Indaki Sativa
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Try being a DD, you'll rarely ever get a commendation, no matter how good you are.
    I have 207 commendations and I only play BRD in dungeons.

    Communicating dungeon mechanics and playing your job properly help a lot.

    Best commendation: 7/7 in Crystal Tower.

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  5. #35
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    Velox's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    Sharlayan
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    Character
    Velo'a Nharoz
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    You guys forget we still haven't even had our first level cap raise yet. Bards will feel a bit more "supporty" at level 80+ with 4-5 new songs. Hell, you may even see all the songs suggested in this thread added. It's likely the first level cap raise will be to 60 at a minimum, and thus, you'll be getting 2 additional job abilities (which, if it were me designing the job, would be an HoT song and a -def song) on top of class skills.
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