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    lordparanoia's Avatar
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    Myss Keta
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    Arcanist Lv 70

    SMN in t6: Garuda or Ifrit Egi?

    Hi everyone. I would like to know your opinion about SMN in t6.
    What is the accuracy that I need? I heard 450, is it right?
    And i read that some SMN are using Ifrit-Egi for this fight and it does higher dps then Garuda-Egi.
    What do you think about it?
    What would be the acc cap for Ifrit Egi and how should i use it? I could leave him in "Sic"?
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Garuda.

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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    470 for Garuda-Egi
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The long and short of Ifrit vs Garuda: Ifrit does slightly more than Garuda with (Edit here) WAR + MNK in the party, MNK for regular attack, WAR for AA. Even then, the loss of Contagion hurts SMN's DPS and MP (this is very important in end-game fights, having to DoT quite a bit more kills MP and forces SMN to skip Ruin II or use ED or some other methods which all result in less DPS) more than you gain from Ifrit's higher damage. Ifrit also attacks less often than Garuda can, since Garuda is ranged and Ifrit has to travel at times.

    Basically, Ifrit in its present form is never worth it, except maybe solo content where you can't Contagion stuff before it dies.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 04-30-2014 at 11:11 AM.

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    Homen Rusah
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Ifrit does slightly more than Garuda with a MNK in the party
    MNKs debuff Blunt (which benefit Titan). Ifrit's auto attacks are Slashing, which is debuffed by Warriors. The rest of Ifrit's abilities are a generic physical type and are not affected by any debuffs.
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    Felendis Vreer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    forces SMN to skip Ruin II or use ED or some other methods which all result in less DPS) more than you gain from Ifrit's higher damage. Ifrit also attacks less often than Garuda can, since Garuda is ranged and Ifrit has to travel at times.

    Basically, Ifrit in its present form is never worth it, except maybe solo content where you can't Contagion stuff before it dies.
    Whaaaaat? A SMN with MP problems?

    Oh wait...
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    forces SMN to skip Ruin II
    That right there is your problem. Ruin II costs twice as much MP as Ruin. Shouldn't really be spamming it...

    Ifrit is better for trash in almost every dungeon where I use contagion 0% of the time and he rarely needs to travel once he reaches a mob along with the rest of the party.
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homen View Post
    MNKs debuff Blunt (which benefit Titan). Ifrit's auto attacks are Slashing, which is debuffed by Warriors. The rest of Ifrit's abilities are a generic physical type and are not affected by any debuffs.
    Good to know, thanks.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homen View Post
    MNKs debuff Blunt (which benefit Titan). Ifrit's auto attacks are Slashing, which is debuffed by Warriors. The rest of Ifrit's abilities are a generic physical type and are not affected by any debuffs.
    Burning Strike is most definitely blunt.
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    I'm pretty sure ifrit's auto attacks are blunt slashing and piercing...
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    You need only have Ifrit hit a dummy for a while until you have a fairly good range of damage numbers, then do it again with Dragon Kick up. It's not rocket science.
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