Quote Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee View Post
@Kuwagami white knight alert. You have no idea why I didn't do Coil 1-5 before it got put in Duty Finder. Having the lockout removed helped me gain access to the content, as I didn't have a static. I just didn't appreciate the Echo buff so soon. Congrats for finding a non-Echo team, I'm sure because you tested it, it's going to become the norm to set up/find non-Echo parties (@RyuDragnier this is how you do sarcasm). Most (yes I don't have a %) people won't remove Echo, admit it.
Not agreeing with your point of view doesn't make me a white knight.
Indeed I have no idea why you didn't get to Coil. Everyone have their reasons. Yet, you had the possibility. You didn't even have to wait for DF to come, as PF parties filled pretty fast in 2.1 (you just had to be sure that noone was trying to troll you and lock you in T3+ but that's an other problem...)

As Versiroth said, you *COULD* have had 1 or 2 tries a day on T1/T2 (just example here) and in 2 weeks you'd have 3 month worth of experience prior to 2.2. Getting or not all your gear is not the question here (coming from someone without a loot in month. I had to wait lockout removal to get what I needed). Just experience.


Also, it's not because I found a non-echo team that it will be the norm. It just shows that people are willing to do it, and that you can get a team for it. And true enough, people in DF won't remove it (got a few exception to ease phase switch in Titan Ex but that's an other case). Yet in PF they will. Because they joined a "non echo team". That's the difference.

Lastly, please, stop the "I don't have a static" excuse. You may have random schedules preventing you from joining a static, it never was a "no static no access" problem. I can't count the number of groups with 100% pugs because people don't have any statics. Even on T6/T7, I know for sure around 4 full groups of PUGs (which makes them some sort of semi statics I guess ? well, they just happen to play together as they are only a few at the moment). Noone prevented you to join/form a group but yourself.
(Please note that I'm not trying to be mean...)

Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
Titan EX with Echo
  • Getting hit by Landslide: Will still knock you off the platform.
  • Getting hit by 3+ plumes: Will still kill you.
  • Not moving properly for Gaols: Will still probably kill one of you.
Sadly enough, these are the only point that matters for Titan Ex. There aren't many groups that can get to enrage, because they wipe/win before it.
If they win, no need of echo.
If they die, echo won't help them for that. As far as I know, tanks are the only ones who can survive the 5 plumes.