Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Rose-Wild]

Updated.
So SE knows that we are sick of fates and then they make us do not one but hundreds of them.

And it doesn't stop there, it's OLD (yes not even new fates, extremly lazy) low level (so even more boring because you are limited to less skills and you are forced to do this fates with a lv50 so that makes it even more pointless) fates that don't even have a high chance of giving you what you need. So you end up spending countless hours depending of RNG to get what you require, and you have to do that x12 in diferent zones. Also some of the locations that are in the quest are wrong making it even more confusing.


From what i know then when you are done with that you have to farm trash mobs, just like before doing Hydra for the original relic, so more boring stuff.

I know that they shouldn't give free relics but this is way worst, it's not challenging or hard, it's just boring and time consuming. I don't know who had this idea but it's clearly a terrible one.

Also you don't even have a quest to track your progress.... The items are not even Key items so they will fill your inventory..........

[Thaliss]

Q11: Will we be able to upgrade our relic weapons to accommodate the increase of the maximum item level?

A11: You will be able to upgrade your relic through the “Saga of the Zodiac Weapons.” While the whole process will be very long, the appearance of your weapon will change if you upgrade your relic weapons up to a certain point.

Hi,
Sure they don't expect everybody to do it but there are people that want long grinding.
The upgrade is not mandatory and there are other weapons iLvL 100 to 115 that don't demand that amount of grinding.
It's a choice, I guess they allow people to have easily all Zenith relics but to get all zodiacs not that easy.

[whoopeeragon]

And it doesn't stop there, it's old low level fates that don't even have a 100% chance of giving you what you need. So you wait for 30 mins to get nothing, and you have to do that x12.

Maybe you're doing the wrong FATEs, not using your Zenith Weapon, didn't contribute enough? We don't know enough yet, are you that sick of trying to figure things out?

From what i know then when you are done with that you have to farm trash mobs, just like before doing Hydra for the original relic, so more boring stuff.

You would have loved 1.0's relic quest then. Just saying.

I know that they shouldn't give free relics but this is way worst, it's not challenging or hard, it's just boring and time consuming. I don't know who had this idea but it's clearly a terrible one.

You don't even know what Atma -> Animus will take. I get it, you don't want free relics, but at the same time, your post just reeeeks of 'I want a relic with minimal effort'. Because guess what. You actually have to put effort into it this time.

Also there's not even a way to know what fate you need and you don't even have a quest to track your progress....

...They give you 12 locations. They even tell you to refer to the Side Story Quests tab in journal to see where you need to go. If you can't somehow keep track of 12 FATEs/areas you need to go to and have completed, I really doubt your memory capacity to even play the game.

[Mister-Wonderful]

FATE's suck.

[Xayoc]

You forget, Asian companies like grindfests. Look at anything put out by NCSoft, absolute grindfest. It was only a matter of time before much grinding was required for something in this game.

[Gormogon]

You mean it's not handed down freely and I have to actually work for it? Nerf irelia...I mean...whatever.

[Arcaloid]

No wonder they remove the auto logout, because I need to stand there doing nothing but waiting for the FATE to pop up!
This is not playing game, this is waiting to play game.

[Sunarie]

You mean it's not handed down freely and I have to actually work for it? Nerf irelia...I mean...whatever.

We obviously have different definitions of work :/ Waiting in a spot for a fate to spawn whilest tabbing out, and having netflix running on half my screen while I run around spamming flash mindlessly doesn't really count as work to me. Just mind-numbing tedium I thought I'd gotten away from.... oh well, it is what it is. Let's not pretend it's hard though.

Edited to add:

Wow lots of people quoting me saying this is what players asked for. I, for one, did not ever ask for more fates (and I never would). I have no problem with a questline, or item taking a long time to get. Just because FFXI or older MMOs may have had mind-numbing grinds, or some other MMOs have worse grinds, doesn't make grinding fates for RNG loot a good idea. What most people (that I saw) were asking for was a fun and engaging open world. A reason to go out that wasn't boring, and would actually bring people together. Fates don't do that, never really have done that well. As I said it is what it is.. but it's not challenging. It's not what people asked for. It's just more of SE trying to force Fates down our throats. People aren't even grouping for these things for the most part. At least not on my server.

[Nepenthe]

I can sort of see something like that an effort to get more people in empty areas. I have no idea which fates they are, of course, but if it gets more people in the area then it makes it easier for people of the proper level that actually want to do it. Of course it's not a fantastic way to go about it, but it seems like a little effort. If a bunch of people are in the zones working at the same goal, it also does promote a more social aspect outside of instances where you say a few one liners for the battle. Like grinding parties in other MMOs.

Of course the above logic starts fading when the wave of people trickles down, and you have the same problems come about. Either way I don't have much of an opinion yet since I'm not there with relic weapons

[Alkel]

FATES grinding is just the worst idea possible.

We hate FATE!! its a poor content!