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    Kelg's Avatar
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    Kelg Granthal
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    It will defiantly be Thaumaturge as the unlocking class, but as for the 2nd job to get cross-class from, could be lancer or marauder; or both as they could add a 3rd class to draw from cross-class abilities from.
    It would make sense from a past standard that dark knight would have THM as the unlock class, but I think they would avoid that path for gameplay reasons. THM skills would be utterly useless(Swiftcast/Surecast, may as well not even have a sub at that point) on a physical dps, which is why Bard's subs were changed from THM and CNJ to PUG and LNC. Even if they took more from THM's list of skills there is still nothing they could really make use of since DRK will not be a primary caster.
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    Even if they took more from THM's list of skills there is still nothing they could really make use of since DRK will not be a primary caster.
    Says who? Slap Int on Marauder weapons around Lv30, just like Arcanist weapons started getting Mind. Then Dark Knight has a solid Int pool. Give Dark Knight access to Fire and Blizzard, as well as the Umbral/Astral effects. Give it a stance ability similar to Defiance, which increases magic damaged proportional to enmity level, while decreasing enmity from casting. Done. Dark Knight does the Marauders enmity combo to build up enmity as high as possible (maybe a Paladin can make use of Cover, too). Then starts casting down their enmity while dealing non-pathetic damage with Fire. Maybe don't even give them Blizzard, just Transpose... It's certainly not impossible to make Dark Knight a melee and caster DPS.

    Pull hate with enmity combo > swiftcast + drain > tank regains hate/covers > spam Fire until damage drops > Transpose/Blizzard to regain MP > resume melee combos.

    That said, the developers lacked the imagination to make Mind and Cure useful for Paladin, so I'm not going to hold out much hope for Dark Knight being much better.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 05-01-2014 at 01:12 PM.

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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    I think it would need a lot of work to make DRK come from GLD though.. they have too many tanking abilities.

    If they could change GLD abilities to have different effects when classified as a DPS it could work. For example, Rampart could change from 20% defense boost to +20% crit boost, and Rage of Halone could change from increased enmity to some kind of damage over time effect, or slashing resistance down.
    They don't have "that" much tanking abilities. Several weapon skills have an enmity boost, but like I said in the opening post, it would be easy to design a stance that suppress these bonuses. And if you spend hit points when attacking, Rampart and Sentinel would just be surviving abilities more than straight tanking ones.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 05-01-2014 at 05:29 PM.

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    KerenRhys's Avatar
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    Kaeren Rhys
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    Yoshi said somewhere that he wanted DRK to come from GLD.
    No, he didn't say he wanted that, he gave it as an example of what was possible with 2 jobs coming from the same class. It's a statement from nearly 2 years ago. Since then, he also said that he probably would have to wait for a 2-handed sword class to give it the DRK job. However, that statement is not that recent either. So what they'll do with DRK is pretty much unknown at this point.

    Remember that he once said that we would have a increase in level max in patch quite soon after the 2.0 release, and they since decided to have it only in the expansion. So, old declarations are pretty much subject to changes.
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    ZeroRains's Avatar
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    Zero Rains
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Dark Knight Tank Only, Screw DPS, its to bland and boring for that.
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    Mal Shadowbeard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Yeah, I'm looking forward to Dark Knight like everyone else - and it seems that gladiator and thaumaturge would make sense for cross class.
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    Kryska Barchenowa
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    While I would LOVE for Dark Knights to be in FFXIV, just thinking about Dark Knights makes me always refer to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FZCDmdlK0 from FFXI.

    Too funny
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    Legend Reborn
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I want Dark to be tank but have feeling it will be DD again from Marauder class.

    SE is purposely holding this job back as it's Ace in the hole.
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    Aly Kin
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    I like the OP's setup for GLA to DRK, just add a scythe off hand DRK exclusive and unable to wear shield to lessen OT potential from stealing a tank spot in 8 man and you're set.
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Would prefer greatsword dps for drk. Make another tank or highly different function dps job be the second job off greatsword.
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