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  1. #11
    Player
    Ashett's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Uldah - Thanalan
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    Ashett Peacewalker
    World
    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I am one of "those" people who will leave before the game begins if an unfavoured dungeon pops up, so I will tell you what the deal is from personal experience. Kimura410 has got it mostly right. For players who already have everything there really isn't much penalty for skipping out, especially when the rage quit penalty got heavily reduced on patch 2.2 (i think). You have to leave a dungeon 3 times in a row under an hour in order to get the penalty. People are expliting it through roulette by rolling the dice twice, and then if they don't get the dungeon they want they just que for it directly without roulette. After it's complete they'll use the roulette and try again. This process is repeated until the favored dungeon pops up on roulette. The system is very flawed honestly. I remember back then when you got a 30 min penalty instantly for leaving. Kind of miss that system really.
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  2. #12
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    Ashett's Avatar
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    Uldah - Thanalan
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    Ashett Peacewalker
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Anyway, I agree with RyuDragnier. The roulette bonus should be used up on first que. That would prevent people from leaving early on.
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  3. #13
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    HEC's Avatar
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    You'd think, but then someone I know had their Sastasha abandoned by the tank before they even loaded in. Sastasha.
    Had this happen to me TWICE last night - effig moron tank left during load up. Not that it would bother me much as I was WHM atm but A) I might have lost the Healer bonus (was going after GC seals for ventures) if I'd requeue and B) I've had no heart to leave 2 DPS standing there alone so we did it in 3 without tank just fine. And - guess what - about an hour later when I was running the DR with my DRG - EXACTLY the same crap - tank left upon loading - again we did it in 3 without one! As suggested above - for ANYONE leaving like this impose BOTH at least 1 hour penalty plus remove the DR bonus for the day for that category. There is no other way how to deal with such scums.
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  4. #14
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    Arcee's Avatar
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    Character
    Deep Hurting
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    I've been having this issue with healers in Brayflox normal like crazy lately. Yesterday, in two separate queues, I watched a total of five healers jump ship before the first boss. Today it happened twice more. It's frustrating to level and gear alt classes when you can't even get a dungeon started.
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  5. #15
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Not sure how people actually avoid the penalty.
    A friend with high end pc (with SSD and all) tested: cancel cutscene, leave duty, slapped with penalty, and that was before the other people had come out of the cutscene...
    So how exactly do people do it?
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  6. #16
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    TomTom1968's Avatar
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
    what happened was, people got a atma book, needed a certain dungeon, tried to use roulette for the bonus, and when the dungeon they needed didn't pop, the leave immediately to retry. this is why people are leaving right away. they are trying for a certain dungeon via roulette, and it isn't popping for them
    ^^ this. And that's something SE can't solve for us entirely. It is up to each individual player to use the Roulette in an appropriate way. The idea is that what you get is random. Not the one you look for. I you want the one you look for, register to it directly or use Party finder. Don't use Roulette because you want your extra tomes no matter how much time it costs others that suffer from such a "i choose only the best for me" behaviour. Just ask yourself if you would like what you do to others. Normally the answer should be NO but some still give a crap. Because their needs are above all others. That's not fair Game.
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  7. #17
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    Blabond's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Trident Kreager
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I would make the penalty worse - you abandon any roulette - 24 hour penalty for all roulettes. The issue will be how to qualify a valid dc v someone pulling the plug to get themselves out. Maybe put a time limit or something on it - if you're in less than 5 minutes and get out, 24 hour penalty or something.

    Tough to code these things - where's there's a pattern, there's someone who finds a way around it....
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  8. #18
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    -DMR-'s Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Zertraya Rouge
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    I don't know what is going on, but I always end up with one other DPS character (my character has DPS role) or another, after 2 attempts to take down Ilfrit, in the Lord of the Inferno dungeon. I'm currently still after another attempt when I get back on the game.
    I haven't used Duty Roulette yet by the way.
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