Players ditching the dungeon before everyone's even finished loading

[RakaMaimhov]

I've witnessed this happening more and more, and I've even encountered the same players doing it in the duty finder within the 30 minute penalty. I think players have found a way to leave instances without penalty (and no this is not preformed groups)

This is obviously an exploit around a measure put in place to prevent this exact behavior from taking place.

[Ryuko]

They might be loading faster, seeing the gear/HP of the people there, and then choosing to leave because they don't think the run will go well.

I'm not saying this is right, but I think this is the most likely scenario, and I have personally witnessed it a few times.

[Garlyle]

They might be loading faster, seeing the gear/HP of the people there, and then choosing to leave because they don't think the run will go well.

I'm not saying this is right, but I think this is the most likely scenario, and I have personally witnessed it a few times.

You'd think, but then someone I know had their Sastasha abandoned by the tank before they even loaded in. Sastasha.

It's still something that should be getting heavily penalized, just because you don't wanna run a given dungeon that you signed up for, you're abandoning three other players who now have to try to deal with it without you, or on dungeons too strict for that to be possible, have to now decide to either ditch and return to queue, or wait for a replacement who might never show.

[Urielparadox]

Actually the people sign up for DF roulette not that dungeon. Satasha is great if you want a quick dungeon. If you want xp blaim SE they lowered the xp rewards so now the lower lvl dungeons punish you even more. If your a lvl 40 + job and you get a lvl 30+ dungeon form DR your going to get a whole level or about 300k-400k, before the update you could get 1.5 levels. If you get a low level dungeon, any dungeon under lvl 30 including haukke manor you get about 160k-180k if you kill all the mobs. They removed the incentive for the tank and and healer who get 5min or less ques to stay in the dungeon. Many people in our fc don't use DF to level jobs anymore do to the punishment for low level dungeons being so high and low level dungeons being so high in demand. I get a lot more people that "DC" on the first pull so they get voted kicked then I have had instant leavers, No one that leaves at start should be able to reenter dungeon though

[FurryFury]

On PC with SSD dungeon usually loads much faster and if everyone else still loading, you can leave without penalty.

[RyuDragnier]

They really need to give a 1 hour penalty for pulling this crap in a roulette, and for the player to lose the roulette bonus. Because I'm sorry, me and a friend spent 30 minutes queuing up for a dungeon, just for the healer and tank to leave instantly. Now we're waiting on another one...ENOUGH OF THIS!

[L-D-Omlette]

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They didn't lower xp rewards. You get roughly the same xp regardless of the dungeon you do, based on your current level. The bonus at the end is adjusted to account for the difference in mob xp. In lower dungeons, like Sastasha, the bonus at the end will be higher than it would be for a dungeon like Stone Vigil, where you get most of the xp from the mobs. It is actually better to get Sastasha as you will get more xp/hr. Only when you aren't running roulette should you want the highest level instance.

[LexSunfire]

Actually the people sign up for DF roulette not that dungeon. Satasha is great if you want a quick dungeon. If you want xp blaim SE they lowered the xp rewards so now the lower lvl dungeons punish you even more. If your a lvl 40 + job and you get a lvl 30+ dungeon form DR your going to get a whole level or about 300k-400k, before the update you could get 1.5 levels. If you get a low level dungeon, any dungeon under lvl 30 including haukke manor you get about 160k-180k if you kill all the mobs. They removed the incentive for the tank and and healer who get 5min or less ques to stay in the dungeon.

this is wrong. they changed it so all lower level dungeons give you roughly the same about of exp in the dr. dungeons closer to your current level give higher exp for mobs killed so the bonus at the end is lower. dungeons farther from your current level give lower exp for mobs killed so the bonus at the end is higher.

[Vespar]

Actually the people sign up for DF roulette not that dungeon. Satasha is great if you want a quick dungeon. If you want xp blaim SE they lowered the xp rewards so now the lower lvl dungeons punish you even more. If your a lvl 40 + job and you get a lvl 30+ dungeon form DR your going to get a whole level or about 300k-400k, before the update you could get 1.5 levels. If you get a low level dungeon, any dungeon under lvl 30 including haukke manor you get about 160k-180k if you kill all the mobs. They removed the incentive for the tank and and healer who get 5min or less ques to stay in the dungeon. Many people in our fc don't use DF to level jobs anymore do to the punishment for low level dungeons being so high and low level dungeons being so high in demand. I get a lot more people that "DC" on the first pull so they get voted kicked then I have had instant leavers, No one that leaves at start should be able to reenter dungeon though

Queueing for Duty Roullette is just that a roullette, if you don't like what you could possibly get then don't queue up and waste other people's time. I think its fair that even if you are still inside the bubble and all members havent loaded yet, if you leave you should still get the 30min lockout so that the trouble you caused others is reflected upon YOU, the person who caused it.

[Kimura410]

what happened was, people got a atma book, needed a certain dungeon, tried to use roulette for the bonus, and when the dungeon they needed didn't pop, the leave immediately to retry. this is why people are leaving right away. they are trying for a certain dungeon via roulette, and it isn't popping for them