Increased lockout for leaving a dungeon please.

[blowfin]

You spin the wheel and deal with where the ball lands. I had all my money on 22 and it landed on 17? I'll just pick up my chips and casually walk away from the table. No. You pay the casino. Or they'll take their due from you by force. In FFXIV, that due is taken by imposing upon the delinquent player a 30min time out. As the system stands now, these abusers of the system are screwing the casino out of it's money and it needs to be corrected.

Yep, you get to try again for your reward elsewhere. If you purposely leave a Roulette run, the reward should be forfeit until the next day, end of story. Vote abandon is there for a reason, use it.

You don't get your leve allowance back if you cancel the Leve, why should this be any different?

[Massterchef]

How about a 24 hour lockout with a 500 myth penalty and 200 soldiery penalty? And while we're at it, burn down their crops, poison their water supply, and deliver a plaugue onto their houses!

[LalaRu]

Unfortunately, the penalty can be easily avoided in some ways (that I had reported).

- If the roulette dungeon is not of your taste, just leave while initial cutscene is going on
- If you already in but want leave, just kill your client/ turn off console and wait 10min, most likely the party have kicked you or disbanded

Rather than more penalties, I think the very best thing on this cases, is the loss of daily bonus if the dungeon you started will not be completed because your actions (as leave or disconnect), needs be kept ready for next try if party disband because other people.

[Lunavi]

The irony is that most of the problems with leaving dungeons would actually solved if the 30 minutes penalty was entirely removed, especially since the way it works now it encourages players to do bad things like ask to be kicked, afk until kicked, or just logout and wait 10 minutes and log back in.

The solution isn't to extend the penalty for leaving or make it apply in more situations. The solution is to remove all penalties and let the players sort themselves into dungeons they want to run.

I can see you are a tank....

[Lunavi]

How about a 24 hour lockout with a 500 myth penalty and 200 soldiery penalty? And while we're at it, burn down their crops, poison their water supply, and deliver a plaugue onto their houses!

I support this. Ok, not the burning down crops, poison water an deliver plague part. But I support creating a punishment that feels. Especially now when we have a fine vota abandon system for when you know stuff is not going to work.

[Mortechai]

I support this. Ok, not the burning down crops, poison water an deliver plague part. But I support creating a punishment that feels. Especially now when we have a fine vota abandon system for when you know stuff is not going to work.

The problem with vote-abandon is that you have to wait 15mins to use it.

[ForteXX]

The irony is that most of the problems with leaving dungeons would actually solved if the 30 minutes penalty was entirely removed, especially since the way it works now it encourages players to do bad things like ask to be kicked, afk until kicked, or just logout and wait 10 minutes and log back in.

The solution isn't to extend the penalty for leaving or make it apply in more situations. The solution is to remove all penalties and let the players sort themselves into dungeons they want to run.

Luckily, if you do either of the first 2 you can get a nice visit from a GM when you get reported.

[Lunavi]

The problem with vote-abandon is that you have to wait 15mins to use it.

Yeah? So? 15 min is not that long. Only time I see it being relevant to decrease it is during Primal battles and stuff clearly does not go as expected.

[DoctorPepper]

I don't support increased lockout timers at all.

Do you really think that if somebody wants to leave and are stuck with a 1 hour lockout that they won't just fake a DC and be removed from the dungeon 5-10 minutes later? Fake DC forces you to wait 5-10 minutes before starting the search for another member, them leaving starts it immediately. Also, as far as I know, until the person who fake DCs is removed from the party you will also receive the lockout if you choose to leave during that time. Increasing the lockout will do nothing aside from encouraging people to pretend their internet is bad in order to avoid seeing a huge lockout.

I also don't want to be forced to stay in a disrespectful pre-made party because my only option is to eat a huge lockout and lose all my play time.

[Moheeheeko]

Congratulations on being able to look on the first page if there was similar topic.

funny how this doesn't get said about the 9+ atma threads on page 1 at any given time