Quote Originally Posted by Langureion View Post
Stop looking for excuse for the echo buff.
Echo buff simply makes fight easier, but you don't need it.
I did all EX primals via DF pre 2.2, 2 healers & 2 tanks, and only few people are i90.
You can clear any EX with i80+ gears with no issue. The only issue is whether the team knows the fight or not.
I never did garuda ex with less than 15% echo (no matter if DF or PF team). I play a healer so you cannot say it was my fault for stacking echo - i simply told author my own experience. Idea is not to disband before you fail at 20% echo.