skill-/spellspeed, why is it still here?

[Gormogon]

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

From what I can tell in this thread the primary reasons speed is hated is because it doesn't make numbers go big. Which is funny and sad. BLM while being burstiest benefits the most from spell speed. People just can't seem to get why.

I think I would have better luck asking the Eye of Sauron if he can see why kids love cinammon toast crunch.

[rhemi1]

a bunch of irrelevant information

People don't 'stereotype' SCHs into Crit/Det builds, people gear for Crit/Det because they're our best secondary stats.

Spell Speed scales so terribly that it's not even worth gearing for, especially given that SCHs have access to several tools that allow us to bypass the normal cast bar timer and not be as reliant in chain casting as a WHM. If you're using Selene, you more than likely have enough Spell Speed than you really need already.

Crit works in tandem with Galvanize shields, and gives your fairy more crit chance...which is more Spell Speed. There's a reason we don't gear for it; We get plenty via procs and buffs. Det isn't so hot, but you'll appreciate those larger numbers when you get to content where your tanks are getting slammed with enormously large amounts of damage (T9).

I mean, grats on solo healing Titan EX, content that was always easily solo healable since EX lacks the one thing that made solo healing Titan slightly difficult (stacking stomps). But that doesn't mean your build is good, or should be encouraged. If anything, you're just promoting more bad SCH play, which we really don't need more of. There's already plenty of awful ones around.

[Ryihito]

I've solo healed in Titan Ex, I've cleared content up till T8 inclusive, I've been researching and came up with my own build that I'm with piety/spell speed. I don't see why this is bad.

People stereotyping Scholars to have Crit/Det build are sad.

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDT4bNLla8

All because you can do it that way doesn't mean it's the best way.

[lxSch]

I've solo healed in Titan Ex, I've cleared content up till T8 inclusive, I've been researching and came up with my own build that I'm with piety/spell speed. I don't see why this is bad.

People stereotyping Scholars to have Crit/Det build are sad.

I am proud to say I am one of the best scholars around. I was one of the pioneers to have solo healed Titan Ex with a Scholar WITH my build. I don't see what's wrong with my build.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDT4bNLla8

My achievement, but i didn't stack it much - it can go much higher. Having this much spell speed makes healing content and generally playing much easier compared to relying on crit.
With an off-gcd energy drain i don't have a problem with mana.

[jars]

it doesn't. ss and piety are not desirable stats for scholar.

[Rjain]

Skill and spell speed are critical for some jobs in PVP. Also, I know some BLMs who focus pretty much strictly spell speed and their DPS is quite a bit higher than BLMs who choose not to.

Don't WHMs focus spell speed too?

[Gesser]

It'd be nice if Skill Speed affected auto-attack delay.

And I mean it SE, it really needs to scale up TP regen.

Spell Speed is generally fine as-is.

It'd be interesting if Spell Speed acted as a CD reducer too (not just GCD, but long CD buffs/temps).

Or else, add a "Vigor" statistic which affects MP/TP regeneration rates, separate from the Sk/Sp Speed stats.

[Ninix]

Skill/spellspeed is good for exactly one job, BLM, because their class gimmick involves circumventing resource management, which is the entire reason why skill/spellspeed is not a desired stat to begin with (running out of TP too quickly). Additionally, it has exactly zero impact on damage over time spells, so it's worthless for summoners. Healers don't value it much because healing is much less about pumping out as much HPS as you can and more about choosing the right spells/targets, resource management, reacting quickly with clutch heals and so on.

Ultimately all the stat would need to make it a valued stat is to have it increase the rate of resource regeneration. However I have to wonder if this is even possible, since it seems like *everything* in this game works on the same 3 second server tickrate and it may not be possible to change this without modifications to the underlying architecture of the game.

[bokchoykn]

I'd like to see Skill/Spell Speed reworked as an overall cooldown reduction.

Skill Speed and Spell Speed effect GCD's and cast times only. If it also reduced the cooldown to things like Rampart and Swiftcast, it would be a lot more compelling.