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    Please SE consider these ideas

    Hello everybody. I would like to present two ideas and hear everybody’s input. First idea is to allow alchemist crafters to synthesis fish into crystal like it was in FFXI. I think it will help the crafting community as a whole and provide options to obtaining crystals.
    The second idea would be to introduce an academy for jobs/classes where people can practice the mechanics. The individual would receive one-on-one instruction from the NPC, and then be sent to a mock instance to practice those skills. Successful completion of the trial will result in a reward and the next challenge will be presented. Implementing an academy will take away the pressure of making a mistake during a live run of a dungeon with other players, as well it would provide confidence in performing their job duties.
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    1) I don't understand how a fish becomes a crystal. I really have no idea how this even works from a lore perspective, but you can get crystals from other gathering stuff. I don't see how its needed, unless I'm missing something....some elaboration may be required. Well, fishing is the one thing crafting class I haven't actually touched at all, so maybe they don't have a method of gathering crystals like a miner would, or something.....enlighten me.

    2) The academy idea is already covered in class quests and guildhests. People just skipped the hests (including myself, until I was forced to do them in order to get new story stuff) and I really have no idea how the concepts don't sink in through a combination of those and just reading the tooltips. Maybe they could somehow make the concept of how to tank a bit more....dumbed down, for lack of a better way of phrasing it, to make it easier to follow....or the consequences of overhealing. Personally, I think people should be able to process this through basic observation, but I am clearly mistaken.

    I think maybe if class quests were repeatable in a sense to brush up on the basics, that may be something, though. Or maybe available as like a Solo Trial or something, that could work. In hindsight, I guess I'm actually agreeing with you on some front.
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    Hello i2agnarok. Thank you for your response. Far as turning fish into crystals, there was a recipe in FFXI where as you take lightning crystals, a certain kind of fish and turn them into lightning shards. It was great in FFXI because if you had too many of one crystal you could convert it into another. I just thought it would be a good idea to carry that over into FFXIV.
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    I'm guessing you're referring primarily to shards, rather than crystals. As crystals/clusters are actually pretty easy to meet needs with small quantities, unlike shards, where we're essentially relying on RMT to meet the needs LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    Hello everybody. I would like to present two ideas and hear everybody’s input. First idea is to allow alchemist crafters to synthesis fish into crystal like it was in FFXI. I think it will help the crafting community as a whole and provide options to obtaining crystals..
    This existed in 1.0 but was removed.
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    Yes to the first, the second already exists with guildhests and class quests as mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I'm guessing you're referring primarily to shards, rather than crystals. As crystals/clusters are actually pretty easy to meet needs with small quantities, unlike shards, where we're essentially relying on RMT to meet the needs LOL.
    Ah. If it was supposed to be shards, yes, that would explain why I was so confused, and this would make more sense.

    However, even if we were talking about crystals, the idea of conversion is pretty interesting. Keep in mind, I'm not a crafter by any stretch of the imagination (as you can tell by my Lodestone profile), but it sounds like a decent enough idea on paper. Maybe not with the exact same method/requirements, but the concept itself sounds useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i2agnarok View Post
    1) I don't understand how a fish becomes a crystal. I really have no idea how this even works from a lore perspective, but you can get crystals from other gathering stuff. I don't see how its needed, unless I'm missing something....some elaboration may be required. Well, fishing is the one thing crafting class I haven't actually touched at all, so maybe they don't have a method of gathering crystals like a miner would, or something.....enlighten me.
    Crystals are made from Aether, all living things are made of Aether its just a matter of extracting that Aether from the fish.

    Also alchemist could make crystals from fish in 1.0, the problem was that it was very easily abused by RMT to make money so I assume this is why SE removed it, shame really because of the removal it made fishing all but useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Crystals are made from Aether, all living things are made of Aether its just a matter of extracting that Aether from the fish.

    Also alchemist could make crystals from fish in 1.0, the problem was that it was very easily abused by RMT to make money so I assume this is why SE removed it, shame really because of the removal it made fishing all but useless.
    Thank you for the elaboration (RMT).
    It made more sense later in the thread, as well.
    As far as extracting the Aether, makes sense and I considered it.
    Its just that it sounds like you should also be able to get it from things such as hunting as well, in that case.
    Probably overthinking it more than anything.
    Either way, I do agree that it seems like a solid idea.
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