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    Player
    Gextiv's Avatar
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Baby Steps: let them first fix incurring no leave penalty when leaving during cut scenes.
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    Freyar's Avatar
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    Ostrogniew Radlutasch
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    It should stay where it is. Anything more and then it's unjust for those who really are getting hit with people who can't manage.

    Vote Abandon should stay. If the majority wants to leave, well.. bummer.
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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i normally queue as a tank or healer. scholar is my main. i have been guilty of leaving instances right out the front door on occasion. generally the reasons for leaving aren't as maniacal as you guys are making it out to be. i will leave the instance if...

    A. i dont have much time and was hoping for a short run or trial in my roulette. when this is the case i will tell the pt right from the gate that i wont have time to complete the dungeon and will just eat the penalty rather than waste even more of peoples time by dropping half way thru.

    B. if more than one person is severely under geared for the encounter. ive seen some really poorly geared people out there. and im sorry but im not going to waste my time with people who cant even be bothered to upgrade their gear for lvl 50 dungeons. the game practically throws gil at you while lvling up. use it to upgrade your gear. AF/GC gear doesn't bother me, but tanks in lvl 35 accessories that dont even have stats appropriate to their class will almost certainly provoke me to leave the dungeon early

    C. the party wipes but then fails to communicate afterwards to try and remedy the situation. buy a fking keyboard off amazon for 10 bux and stop being lazy
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    Last edited by alhandra; 04-30-2014 at 09:26 AM.

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    lxSch's Avatar
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    Alex Pokute
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    Lich
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Forcing people will never work

    You cannot force people to do what they do not want in the game. I stopped doing low level and expert roulette because generally it is a waste of time. I am still doing the high level roulette, but close to stopping doing it too. Many other people do the same, proof is many brayflox 2-3 boss teams in the party finder.
    Most of people i meet in DF now are newbies who have recently started playing and would not think of abandoning the dungeon. The harsher penalties are - the less experienced players will queue for roulette, and what can barely geared people do alone?
    Today i queued for copperbell in progress for atma book quest - all 3 players were 1st time and stuck at the 2nd boss because had no clue what to do, their healer quit (when i entered they already have been there for 40 minutes). I explained them what to do and we passed the rest of the dungeon in like 15 minutes. I queued for DD (lv44) next and again all 3 players were 1st time, but it is an easy dungeon. I keep getting 3k hp dps and 4k hp tanks for copperbell hard in the high roulette for the 3rd day in a row (i completed those runs but it's an extreme healer task to keep the tank alive).
    People leave because they think trying to complete the dungeon is a waste of time.
    SE needs to stop being sub-greedy and increase myth/sol rewards in the roulette so doing it will be meaningful again. Any kind of forcing will just make people to stop doing roulettes.
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    Last edited by lxSch; 04-30-2014 at 09:52 AM.

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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by lxSch View Post
    You cannot force people to do what they do not want in the game. .
    Its ok let players get what they want. Enforce stricter penalties, remove vote abandon, add rewards to the end of each run, Anything else I miss? Let SE do it, Then see how many people cry because they have to wait 60mins+ in Queue because no one wants to deal with stupid crap.

    The only Duty Roulettes I even do are the Main and Trials the rest are a complete waste.
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    Macka Na'vatru
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Its ok let players get what they want. Enforce stricter penalties, remove vote abandon, add rewards to the end of each run, Anything else I miss? Let SE do it, Then see how many people cry because they have to wait 60mins+ in Queue because no one wants to deal with stupid crap.

    The only Duty Roulettes I even do are the Main and Trials the rest are a complete waste.
    I'm the opposite I think main scenario and High level is a complete waste of time.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Macka View Post
    I'm the opposite I think main scenario and High level is a complete waste of time.
    Main Scenario takes like 30mins and Trials depending on which takes less than 10mins. Low, High, Expert are all a waste of time.
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    Alex Pokute
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    Lich
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    i normally queue as a tank or healer. scholar is my main. i have been guilty of leaving instances right out the front door on occasion. generally the reasons for leaving aren't as maniacal as you guys are making it out to be. i will leave the instance if...

    A. i dont have much time and was hoping for a short run or trial in my roulette. when this is the case i will tell the pt right from the gate that i wont have time to complete the dungeon and will just eat the penalty rather than waste even more of peoples time by dropping half way thru.

    B. if more than one person is severely under geared for the encounter. ive seen some really poorly geared people out there. and im sorry but im not going to waste my time with people who cant even be bothered to upgrade their gear for lvl 50 dungeons. the game practically throws gil at you while lvling up. use it to upgrade your gear. AF/GC gear doesn't bother me, but tanks in lvl 35 accessories that dont even have stats appropriate to their class will almost certainly provoke me to leave the dungeon early

    C. the party wipes but then fails to communicate afterwards to try and remedy the situation. buy a fking keyboard off amazon for 10 bux and stop being lazy
    Scholar is a perfect job to deal with undergeared players, especially tanks. I had a lot of high level roulettes with 4k hp tanks and never failed any of them and neither it took considerable more time to finish. /dislike.
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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by lxSch View Post
    Scholar is a perfect job to deal with undergeared players, especially tanks. I had a lot of high level roulettes with 4k hp tanks and never failed any of them and neither it took considerable more time to finish. /dislike.

    sure its possible, and i have no problem doing it. its just not my responsibility to pick up the slack for people who cant even be bothered to research how to gear their class properly. let me reiterate, i have no problems with a fresh 50 in af/gc gear in a hm dungeon. i have a problem with maruaders in stone vigil wearing lvl 23 dps gear. ive ran SV alot, ive seen it more that you would think
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    Beowolf Destroyer
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Disagree completely as irl circumstances can change
    I.e the other night I had to leave a dungeon just after start
    My baby girl had pooed leaked out her nappy and had to be bathed
    Once I was done I was able to reque.
    With your proposal I'd have to wait a extra 30-60 mins

    NO THANK YOU

    If some1 leaves get a friend or fc member to join in progress,
    No one to join? Change for a better fc
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