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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Pretty sure it's been mentioned before, but if they leave, it should use up their roulette bonus for the day, including the penalty for leaving. By the time they get back in after the penalty, they could have just finished what they originally got.

    Don't like what you got? Too bad. It's a roulette, it's not meant to work in your favor, it's supposed to be random. As I've said before on a few other topics, people need to remember that it's a mmo, it's not all about you. When you pull bs like that, you're wasting other people's time.

    Here comes the hate and rage but, if you don't like playing with others or quiting because of 1 mistake, hoping to get a better pt, I think the genre you're looking for are called single player rpgs.
    What about those who dont speak or understand (or at least acknowledge any english) that go into DF with the english option selected and have no clue whatsoever. Then proceed to cause wipe after wipe after wipe. Aren't they wasting peoples time?
    Couldnt they find a guide in their own language first? Couldnt they only que for the language they understand if they dont know the dungeon? Had a german, no english whatsoever, no idea of the fight, whatsoever, in King Moggle. No one could explain what to do, as no one else int he party spoke German.Werent they wasting the other 7 peoples time also?
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
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    A lot of people don't seem to know this, judging by what I've come across, but there is an ingame translator. It might not have everything, but you can piece together things and people understand >.> And anything in <t> gets translated too. So you could easily do "<t>" [Attack]" and mark them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    A lot of people don't seem to know this, judging by what I've come across, but there is an ingame translator. It might not have everything, but you can piece together things and people understand >.> And anything in <t> gets translated too. So you could easily do "<t>" [Attack]" and mark them
    Why should I have to? Why cant they be proactive and do it themselves before? Why should I have to struggle with an auto translator that many, many times do not work due to sentance structure and grammer? Why should they make it so much harder for everyone else?

    Am I suppose to battle with the translater during the fight if they make a mistake risking dieing to AE or losing aggro whilst doing so? What if the translater doesnt cover what is needed to be communicated?

    I have ZERO problems helping new people who listen, understand and improve from it. Even if its not a kill. I do have problems with people who totally ignore and do not communicate in anyway, or join with a language set that they do not understand and cannot communicate in anyway with people who want to help them. In that case they SHOULD do some research on sites that explains things in their own language beforehand, or join a FC/LS with players they can communicate with to help them.

    BTW I speak 3 languages fluently.

    Simple question: Why go into a dungeon expecting others to teach you? It is not your right to expect others to do that. Those who reply that they won't watch a vid, won't research their rotations. If you can't do it for yourself, why do you expect others to do it for you? The other members in that party you join are not there for you, they owe you nothing. When people do give advice and instructions on how to run a dungeon, it's them making an effort to have an enjoyable experience in the dungeon. If they can make that effort. why can't you?
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 04-30-2014 at 08:58 AM.

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    What they need to do is lower the damned vote kick timer.

    People either DC (deliberately or legit) near the beginning and cant kick them for like 5-10 min. So now you have to stand around doing nothing for 5-10 min then try and seek a replacement. Heaven forbid its the tank. Not to mention you can't vote abandon either. Had this happen 2x last week alone.

    Oh and stiffer penalties? No thanks. While few parties (short of the above situation) have made me want to abandon I don't want to be stuck with a hour or more lockout because the group is just impossible. Get stuck in a Mannor (Hard) run with DPS pathetically geared then think about what your asking.
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    Last edited by necrosis; 04-30-2014 at 03:08 AM.

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    Lee Akira
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Well, I do dislike quitting duty's or others quitting, but when Behemoth is up, or Odin is up, you best not count on me to stay, I'm out of that duty as soon as someone yells to get my pitch-fork and torches to go hunt behemoth/Odin.
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    Archer Lv 80
    I like the scaling / cumulative idea

    My wife only jumped out of a dungeon once, something came up IRL while we were doing the new hard modes.
    Which should be the only reason you skip out anyways.
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    Kay'la Yukinekove
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    Coeurl
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    I've had this happen too. I got into Halitli NM. The tank before the other dps was out of cs (who was also a new player). Right after that the healer also left. I don't think we should even be allowed to leave before the duty even started. This is getting really bad.
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    Pep Per
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    time out penalties are meaningless. i haven't tested this out extensively but i never get a penalty from leaving a roulette; never.
    also, there is the party finder work around. you could give people a 2 hour lock out but they can still join/make a group in the PF and be just fine.
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I'd like to comment on this, since today I left a duty roulette.

    Personally, I don't like doing speed runs in roulette. You're with a bunch of strangers, some may not have optimal gear, and most tanks I've encountered don't know how to use cooldowns. I find it more stress than it's worth, so I usually leave. If people want to speed run, they should use party finder and set up an optimal group.
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    Macka Na'vatru
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    Diabolos
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    I'd like to comment on this, since today I left a duty roulette.

    Personally, I don't like doing speed runs in roulette. You're with a bunch of strangers, some may not have optimal gear, and most tanks I've encountered don't know how to use cooldowns. I find it more stress than it's worth, so I usually leave. If people want to speed run, they should use party finder and set up an optimal group.
    Pretty much this. Why people try to force me to do speedruns is beyond me. This is what I do as a healer if you pull more then 2 groups I watch you die and leave, as a tank I pull one group at a time I don't trust random people, as a dps one mob at a time since I'm a monk mostly.
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