The "Yoshi needs more sleep" petition! Save him before it's too late!

[Ventus]

As you guys may have recently read in the interview with yoshi-p, the man slaves too much over this game and sleeps an average of 2-3 hours a day which is INSANELY bad !

So I have gathered us all here today so that we may sign a petition urging yoshi to get more sleep and take a break and go chill on the beaches of valkrum dunes or something =/.

We must save him before he becomes so grumpy and angry from all the trolls while he is sleep deprived that he explodes !

Sign here please and save a life!

THIS is what we need to do for yoshi! Click the link and you'll see what I mean!

Thank you all!

[Seif]

Like I said in the other thread: Ahem I don't believe for a second that gear takes that long nor the fact that he thinks he's being more productive because he prides with the lack of sleep. It's the most unproductive way to work and there are dozens of studies proving that. Japanese need just as much sleep as everyone else and pretending you're a superhero doesn't change that.

Honestly the way the fan crowds have fallen for this jesus-act is a bit lame. I personally want this game to be fixed sooner and to do that the devs need to start acting more responsibly starting with Yoshida.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Like I said in the other thread: Ahem I don't believe for a second that gear takes that long nor the fact that he thinks he's being more productive because he prides with the lack of sleep. It's the most unproductive way to work and there are dozens of studies proving that. Japanese need just as much sleep as everyone else and pretending you're a superhero doesn't change that.

Honestly the way the fan crowds have fallen for this jesus-act is a bit lame. I personally want this game to be fixed sooner and to do that the devs need to start acting more responsibly starting with Yoshida.

How in the hell do you know that he's less productive? There are people that feel fine after 2 or 3 hours of sleep. Just because a majority of people need more than that doesn't mean that there aren't people that need less than that.

Honestly the way Seif always acts is a bit lame. Every single post he makes has nothing positive or worth reading. I understand criticism, but every post I've read from him just bleeds cynicism. Your last sentence is a joke, they're are acting more responsibly, they're listening to the players and just about implementing everything they want.

[Misha]

How in the hell do you know that he's less productive? There are people that feel fine after 2 or 3 hours of sleep. Just because a majority of people need more than that doesn't mean that there aren't people that need less than that.

Honestly the way Seif always acts is a bit lame. Every single post he makes has nothing positive or worth reading. I understand criticism, but every post I've read from him just bleeds cynicism. Your last sentence is a joke, they're are acting more responsibly, they're listening to the players and just about implementing everything they want.

That's pretty ignorant... it's not about feeling fine... the human body is optimal with a set number of hours of sleep(Roughly 7-9 hours)... that hard to understand? Yoshi isn't getting his full potential... You may be "Fine" with that low amount of sleep but you'll be nowhere near the top of your game(no pun intended) by getting the amount of sleep he does... Some peoples lack of knowledge of the human body is astounding!!! This is the information age yet there's so many ignorant people, it's sad. He's not unique or super human, he's just human like the rest of us >.<

(Not to mention he's pumped full of nicotine and caffeine, those have their own effects!) Defend his actions all you want people, just makes you look like more of a hick haha.

Oh and Just wanted to finish by saying have nothing against Yoshi, just laying down facts to these people who assume everything rather than being knowledgeable and having factual information!!!

[Sav]

That's pretty ignorant... it's not about feeling fine... the human body is optimal with a set number of hours of sleep(Roughly 7-9 hours)... that hard to understand? Yoshi isn't getting his full potential... You may be "Fine" with that low amount of sleep but you'll be nowhere near the top of your game(no pun intended) by getting the amount of sleep he does... Some peoples lack of knowledge of the human body is astounding!!! This is the information age yet there's so many ignorant people, it's sad. He's not unique or super human, he's just human like the rest of us >.<

(Not to mention he's pumped full of nicotine and caffeine, those have their own effects!) Defend his actions all you want people, just makes you look like more of a hick haha.

Oh and Just wanted to finish by saying have nothing against Yoshi, just laying down facts to these people who assume everything rather than being knowledgeable and having factual information!!!

While I don't disagree with you, the findings of studies are hardly factual. Scientists and doctors understand this, but the media that presents the findings to the public (via newscasts, etc.) over-exaggerates the validity of the conclusions. Not to mention most of our modern medical knowledge was only discovered in the past century.

In other words, just because 7-8 hours is suggested does not mean it is necessary.

If we were to put this in terms of formal logic. Let's assume the following: if you get at least 7 hours sleep, you will feel well-rested. If we negate the first part (i.e. if you get less than 7 hours sleep), that does not imply you will not feel well-rested.

[SakuraHadoken]

I honestly think that Yoshida is trying his best to get everything done as soon as he can, and that a bunch of people forget that its just a game. Yoshida's health is definitely more important, same for everyone else on the team working on FFXIV.

[Sephr]

Like I said in the other thread: Ahem I don't believe for a second that gear takes that long nor the fact that he thinks he's being more productive because he prides with the lack of sleep. It's the most unproductive way to work and there are dozens of studies proving that. Japanese need just as much sleep as everyone else and pretending you're a superhero doesn't change that.

Honestly the way the fan crowds have fallen for this jesus-act is a bit lame. I personally want this game to be fixed sooner and to do that the devs need to start acting more responsibly starting with Yoshida.

Honestly Seif, you're not a game designer so you have absolutely no clue how long it takes to design anything. Games like this usually require vast amounts of pre-planning because of how long it takes to make most things, that's the reality of game design.

I'd love for more of this type of information to come out personally, to help people such as Seif get a grasp on the development process he so clearly does not understand.

No one's fallen for his 'jesus-act' (stupid statement, what does it mean? Martyrdom? Hilarious). You just need to realise the vastness of this undertaking, and recognise he and the rest of the team are really working their asses off to get this thing in shape.

[Aldora]

Honestly Seif, you're not a game designer so you have absolutely no clue how long it takes to design anything. Games like this usually require vast amounts of pre-planning because of how long it takes to make most things, that's the reality of game design.

I'd love for more of this type of information to come out personally, to help people such as Seif get a grasp on the development process he so clearly does not understand.

In the interview of the community team he mentioned the "entire" process of creating new equipment, namely this:

Yoshida: The process of commissioning new equipment/weapons is largely split in two. The first is 'what's required from a game design point of view', e.g. it goes without saying an ultimate weapon players can only get when reaching the maximum level for a certain job should look unique. The other side entails 'equipment in the form of a reward' for 'content' that players must aim to clear. For both cases, a full time Item Team was established and they are accepting offers from the whole project. As there are so many unique designs that are essential to game planning, the production costs really add up. We then proceed with commissioning reward-based equipment after we decide whether it should be made with existing adjustments + parameters built-in or by redesigning the look. The character design team are the ones who get the actual request. Akihiko Yoshida's team creates the artwork used for character modelling and then modelling work starts based on this. Work proceeds to sculpting and when it's ready, it takes about 6 months to create one full set of equipment that maintains FFXIV's high standards of graphics. We can't get a good supply of these items ready if we don't establish a long-term plan for creating them. This is the most important part. Finally, the staff responsible for each content adds the items to the in-game item database and we're done!

I personally think that process of creating an entire set would take 6 months, if you would sum up all the hours the team has put into it. Let's say an entire set of equipment consists of a weapon, head, body, hands, legs and feet. That would 6 pieces of equipment that would need to be designed, planned, modelled, textured and eventually implemented. In average that would take 1 month per item. But, in reality it will not be just 1 member of the dev that will be design, plan, model, texture AND implement the item in question. They would probably have 1 person designing the item, 1 person planning the process, 1 person perform the modelling of the item, 1 person responsible for creating the textures and 1 person for the implementation.

Based on that, you could say that 5 people are working on 1 specific piece of equipment. Divide the 1 months worth of man hours between these 5 people and each individual would have work about 5 days on it. That would sound more resonable to me...

Keep in mind that this is pure speculation, based on my experience in development. (^_^ )

[giftforce]

I personally think that process of creating an entire set would take 6 months, if you would sum up all the hours the team has put into it. Let's say an entire set of equipment consists of a weapon, head, body, hands, legs and feet. That would 6 pieces of equipment that would need to be designed, planned, modelled, textured and eventually implemented. In average that would take 1 month per item. But, in reality it will not be just 1 member of the dev that will be design, plan, model, texture AND implement the item in question. They would probably have 1 person designing the item, 1 person planning the process, 1 person perform the modelling of the item, 1 person responsible for creating the textures and 1 person for the implementation.

Based on that, you could say that 5 people are working on 1 specific piece of equipment. Divide the 1 months worth of man hours between these 5 people and each individual would have work about 5 days on it. That would sound more resonable to me...

Keep in mind that this is pure speculation, based on my experience in development. (^_^ )

Also consider that by a "set", they are probably including all textures (canvas, cotton, velvet, wool etc.) as well as the various embellishments. For example, Bronze and Iron sollerets use the same model but have slight differences in embellishments. Such small variations can be seen on all the gear in the game. They might use the same base, but different tiers have small additions.

So a "Set" may include the base plus the hundred-or-so variations.

Considering that, six months doesn't seem unrealistic.

[Jennestia]

Like I said in the other thread: Ahem I don't believe for a second that gear takes that long nor the fact that he thinks he's being more productive because he prides with the lack of sleep. It's the most unproductive way to work and there are dozens of studies proving that. Japanese need just as much sleep as everyone else and pretending you're a superhero doesn't change that.

Honestly the way the fan crowds have fallen for this jesus-act is a bit lame. I personally want this game to be fixed sooner and to do that the devs need to start acting more responsibly starting with Yoshida.

You really need to let go of the cynicism, like really. It's very common knowledge that in terms of MMOs it does in fact take months to pump out high quality models let alone things regarding stats or ability enhancements -- Even offline games some companies spend a year or more perfecting a high polygon model on next gen systems. Why do you think the player model tend to be the most detailed and NPCs tend to be fairly generic?

Though I assume you can do better in less?

I think Mr Yoshi is... stretching the truth with his 2-3 hours a night of sleep story. If he truly was doing that, there is no way he would get anything done.

More common knowledge - In game development especially you can go sometimes a week without sleep if you need to make a very important deadline, why? Simple, it's a tough industry just like the senate in america sometimes "spend the night" during important bills and so on.