Quote Originally Posted by Legend_ View Post
So let me get this right
They implement PF so if you wanted you could try and learn without weing bashed in DF. Leaving people no room for anything
fixed it for you

Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
Oh you mean that lone DPS sitting in a PF entry "wanting to learn" difficult fights that gets ignored because the majority of people want quick and easy wins on said content? Please.
aproximatively 20 minutes. even T2 rot learning (true story, I found one and it filled in under 5 minutes)
But yeah, you have to try first.. and it's hard to be willing to say "I'm here to learn" if there are 10+ PF with "1 error = kick"


Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
Ya I'm getting sick and tired of people "practicing" titan extreme in DF. And PF on my server only wanting one shot experienced runs. I just want my win already. Been banging my head against titan today and just venting my frustration. You know it's a fail if you don't get past heart on first try. Then people say " just keep trying for echo". No. If you can't even get past heart without it no amount of echo is going to save this party. Ugh. I'm going to play something else for a while.
tbh, I "practiced" titan in DF in european time when my server was deserted. Yet I usually found beginners there... Got a kill with friendly people, and I never came back. But usually, be it PF or DF, you can have some golden rules :
=> one try for heart. They have to reach it. If people die to landslide, they won't do it.
=> 3 tries for post heart. If the group fails once to reach heart it's done. If they fail 3 times to get post heart it's done
=> one try for first adds, because you can tell pretty quick if you're gonna make it
=> 2 tries for superbomb. Because these plumes in between are deadly for laggy people.


Usually, groups fail at either step 1 or 2. a few fail at step 3, and most of the groups failing at step 4 just derp/lag.

good luck :/