DF one big cess pool for practice

[SirDiscoFrog]

Can this be changed? now days people go to DF to learn and don't mind messing up in front of other players possibly not even from the same server. Once in a blue you can clear content from early as Garuda Ex on even Titan hm it's just been a matter of luck.

That's the risk you take when going in a DF. :/

Most PFs are farm parties only or wanting kill experience/everyone to know the whole fight. Even PFs that are learning parties get players who are there to 'help' but have and no patience for those who are learning so instead of learning it just turns into a disastrous 2-3 runs of trying to get it until someone goes '*sigh* obviously no one has seen this before./Uhhh I have to wash the cat. Bye'.

The main difference between the 2 honestly are just the range of players, the 30min penalty for leaving, and the frequency of people communicating. Both DF and PF would have better success rates if people would just communicate and have patience, which is more likely to happen on PF, so of course the success rates of DF will be lower and it will be abysmally low if people dont talk with each other or expect a one/two shot win without some struggle.

If you want better win rates in DF communicate with your party, and realize it might take a few tries.

[Bruiser_Cruiser]

All your saying with ur OP is "split up casuals and hardcore players". Get over it man. Casuals aren't going to go through the trouble to search through the party finder for a party. Duty finder is RANDOM and honestly i don't feel much of a tie to the other players i encounter in them because half the time the dungeon will complete without a word being spoken the whole time. How bout if u wanna be all elitest about it form YOUR OWN PARTY so u can make sure to only recruit the "perfect" players to fit your play style.
I just hope u understand lots of new people are flocking in from ps4 and also people are beginning to come back to check out new 2.1/2.2 content (including myself). You should seriously get over yourself. The more people that learn these encounters the more people there will be to fill up parties for true endgame. Everyone has to progress and some don't like to rush as much as others.

[Lamentations]

[QUOTE=SirDiscoFrog;2072539]That's the risk you take
Risk? Since when is a lack of patience or foulmouthed ragefesting the definition of "risk", Se developed this system which separates low and high level players by virtue of people leveling so fast.

My FC is tied up with endgame content, which I will be "forced" to que into DF to clear dungeons in order to catch them.

When I started this game I was through with mouthy people, ignoring them has become a non-option, start on me and I will show you what foul mouth is, this of course wont be tolerated by SE, but yet they are.

Cesspool was the right description, I avoid DF because I am smart enough to "know" what will happen if I don't.

Se has sunk it's own boat with this cross server system, so rabid personalities run amok, never get sanctioned for "starting" crap, and then will probably sanction those who "finish" it.

I say chuck DF altogether.

[ispano]

No it isn't. It's an american/european standard. As you can see, Levi/Moggle mog XII cannot be queued in DF for a reason. And I don't think it's just because SE "forgot" to make DF available.

Might rather have something to do with people crying that "noobs" were ruining their Titan Ex/Ifrit Ex runs in DF "cuz they're so nub lol"

Yeah it's just something the westerners try to push, in Japan it's quite literally the other way around. DF was meant for people to get stuff done outside of preformed parties at off times and such. Not practice.

[Lamentations]

Yeah it's just something the westerners try to push, in Japan it's quite literally the other way around. DF was meant for people to get stuff done outside of preformed parties at off times and such. Not practice.

Yea as a "westerner" I can only find it sad that other "westerners" push this garbage.

[Lunavi]

Are we playing the same game? I find the success rate on Titan HM via DF higher than ever because of the daily trial roulette which makes so that usually 1-2 people on the party is overkill overgeared, could solo it, and has more kill EXP than needed to finish all relics for all classes 5 years into the future.

If you want to see low DF kill% you should've tried Titan HM in DF during mid 2.0. THAT was true hell xD

[Moirear]

Are you serious, OP?

Go into the Party Finder on my server and you'll see:

9 "Know the fight"/"weekly kill, be experienced or get kicked"/etc.-type parties looking for more.
5 FATE/Chocobo grinding groups
3 WTB/WTS/recruitment entries
0-1 learning parties for any content


Where the hell else are people supposed to learn if they're not in a helpful FC or LS, than not in the DF?

[ispano]

Are you serious, OP?

Go into the Party Finder on my server and you'll see:

9 "Know the fight"/"weekly kill, be experienced or get kicked"/etc.-type parties looking for more.
5 FATE/Chocobo grinding groups
3 WTB/WTS/recruitment entries
0-1 learning parties for any content


Where the hell else are people supposed to learn if they're not in a helpful FC or LS, than not in the DF?

By making a group for it.

[Legend_]

So let me get this right
They implement PF so if you wanted you could avoid DF with inexperienced players but yet you still don't want new players in DF. Leaving people no room for anything

[alhandra]

this kind of bothers me too, why did the DF get defaulted to practice groups? the burden of learning a fight should not be placed on random people looking for the fastest way to get into an instance

use the PF to learn stuff ffs