DF one big cess pool for practice

[Marael]

Can this be changed? now days people go to DF to learn and don't mind messing up in front of other players possibly not even from the same server. Once in a blue you can clear content from early as Garuda Ex on even Titan hm it's just been a matter of luck.

So... by your logic... everyone should just know everything... and never have to learn fights or anything in any way... because reasons...?

Soooooo, if someone isn't learning a fight in DF, where should they be learning it? Through direct data downloads to their brain ala the Matrix? If you have such a problem with people using DF to learn instances, grab a linkshell and put a static together, use party finder, join a FC that regularly does the content you want to do, or any number of other things.

[Evil_Betox]

Can this be changed?

What do you want? You get randoms everytime you use the DF, if you want skilled people you should make your own party.

Seriously i brainstormed on this one, i don't know what you really want and what can be changed in the duty finder.

[Elven]

[QUOTE=Evil_Betox;2073460]What do you want? You get randoms everytime you use the DF, if you want skilled people you should make your own party.

Seriously i brainstormed on this one, i don't know what you really want and what can be changed in the duty

Well I figured they could have a primal daily double to help new players beyond that I draw a blank.

[blowfin]

I said people need to stop relegating it to ONLY that, which is what's happening and it's wrong.

Who are you the DF Police or something? People can (and will) use it any way they want. There's no "right" or 'wrong" way, only what you've made up in your mind.

[Kuwagami]

Let me spell it out for you, FC has 60+ members, roughly 30 of those are daily regulars, most are multiple 50 and endgame, coil, atma grind etc.

New guy says hey can anyone help me out with tam tara?, lol wut? DF dude.

A FC like that is just terrible and I would leave asap for a better and friendlier one. One FC I know has 100+ people and always find more people to help than there are new players requiring help.. even with Coil, atma, etc..

Who are you the DF Police or something? People can (and will) use it any way they want. There's no "right" or 'wrong" way, only what you've made up in your mind.

It's just common sense. If you are really trying to learn, you need to adapt with your group to the mechanics, and that requires time. It's not that long for 4 men dungeons so it's okay to go blindfold in these, but for the difficult content (HMs back in time, EX now), 1 hour won't be enough to :
=> get along well and work as a group
=> learn content
=> clear content


That's why PF is here, because it gives people you can requeue with and thus skip steps 1 and 2 (step 2 after a few times in).

As an example, I learned titan EX in DF (due to time schedule) and it took forever. Then it took even longer to kill it, and I only got my kill in PF. (4 month in total, 3 hours a day)
Then, I used PF for Levi ex, and I knew the fight's ins and outs after 3 hours practicing, and then only needed 30 mins more to get the kill and enter farm mode..

I won't enter a Leviathan DF or a Titan EM DF.Maybe in 12 months with ilvl 150 or something like that , when 4 o 5 players coud kill him

good news then, you can't DF levi ex

[Lamentations]

[QUOTE=Kuwagami;2074148]A FC like that is just terrible and I would leave asap for a better and friendlier one.

It's not a terrible FC, I have known many of these people for years, they are busy, with coil, atmas, tomes, "jobs" etc.

Because I was out for a month they all crammed to endgame, when they are done grinding the content mentioned above they are burnt out, and do not want to grind content they have done before.

Df is a problem "because" the leveling in this game is light speed, and the vast majority of players are at or near 50/endgame etc.

The combination of these things makes for a facepalm/ bang your head on the desk mess at low level.

The options for clearing storyline content in this game without those vets tagging along is nonexistent, unless you want to memorize a youtube video before every run.

Oh well im done with this topic, ill just start making my own PF groups, and blist as I go.

[NinjaTaru72]

No offence, Your fc must just suck. If they dont want to help. I'm in a fc that, even though they are done, they have gladly jumped in low level and endgame dungeons to help me catch up and get ready for 2.3 and beyond.

[Lamentations]

No offence, Your fc must just suck. If they dont want to help. I'm in a fc that, even though they are done, they have gladly jumped in low level and endgame dungeons to help me catch up and get ready for 2.3 and beyond.

No "offense" was or is taken, please define "done" for me if you will, I am pretty sure they aren't done.


My post revolved around the pitfalls of Duty Finder, which quite honestly has a lot more to do with ill tempered human beings playing this MMO.

I live by the philosophy that while I have the right to wallow in misery, I do not have the right to make "others" miserable, I find far too many of these random miserable people in PUGs in XIV.

My post wasn't meant to defame or bait wolves with my FC, and since I posted they actually capped myth and ran me through several pieces of content.

When "they" aren't busy, I get short accurate information on how to get through a run, not some rubber room candidate screaming about how no one has ever sucked harder.

I avoid these exchanges because when provoked I get mean, and I am usually quite vocal about it, people certainly do not have to like me, they do however have to leave me alone, hey lets just all have fun.

I am sorry I didn't make myself clearer, hopefully that has changed.

[Nadrojj]

I don't know how people rely on anything via duty finder. You're better off spending that time looking for a FC or LS that can run the content instead of relying on a bunch of people you don't know.

[Nevik]

just last night I queued up for Titan HM to practice my BLM in a "real" fight... but of course I didn't go in not knowing nothing about BLM.. I did some practice on some trash mobs out in the world, then when I thought I'm doing ok, I decided to test it on something that mattered and we 1 shot it... of course it helps that I know that fight by heart, but not everyone that goes in DF to practice will fail..