Is the 0-Click Ban also extended to the first coil of bahamut?

[coldreactive]

Just wondering, because I thought I remember Square Enix saying that it was meant for "Coil" and not just "2nd Coil."

[Akirakogami]

whats that?

[Kuwagami]

There may be a "click enrage" in SCoB (from what I can understand here), probably on T8. Maybe it's a one-shot enrage and some people found a way to get past it, so they bugged the boss and downed the turn illegitimately (3 teams have been banned for non-legit T8 down). Idk.

T2 is not a bug exploit though, and SE already said they won't ever change it. Live with it bro

[Shirai]

T2 is not a bug exploit though, and SE already said they won't ever change it. Live with it bro

It's amusing that even today people are still complaining about that.
But it is as you say, it works as intended, they won't fix it but it's likely that newer content with survivable enrage mechanics will not be added.

[ispano]

It's amusing that even today people are still complaining about that.
But it is as you say, it works as intended, they won't fix it but it's likely that newer content with survivable enrage mechanics will not be added.

They never said it was intended, they just said they weren't going to change it. Not the same thing.

[coldreactive]

They never said it was intended, they just said they weren't going to change it. Not the same thing.

Indeed. I also attempted to contact Square Enix Support on this matter, they said to check the forums instead. So, I did, and we're back at no real answer.

[subteraneanbird]

Turn 8's enrage is a single hit, Atomic Ray, that wipes the party. The first few clears of T8 intentionally exploited the game to avoid it. There's several ways they could've done it. I personally think it was a Z-Axis exploit (ie, they found some way to knock themselves above the battlefield and thereby avoid Atomic Ray) but any method they did it would've involved taking advantage of an unintended exploit. There is nothing unintended about T2. Globe 199 works exactly as designed and parties aren't avoiding the attack entirely. They're just healing through it. And that's totally fine.

[ispano]

Turn 8's enrage is a single hit, Atomic Ray, that wipes the party. The first few clears of T8 intentionally exploited the game to avoid it. There's several ways they could've done it. I personally think it was a Z-Axis exploit (ie, they found some way to knock themselves above the battlefield and thereby avoid Atomic Ray) but any method they did it would've involved taking advantage of an unintended exploit. There is nothing unintended about T2. Globe 199 works exactly as designed and parties aren't avoiding the attack entirely. They're just healing through it. And that's totally fine.

Unintended? Do you read minds? They said they wouldn't change it, not that they never intended for people to beat it that way.

[Raestloz]

Unintended? Do you read minds? They said they wouldn't change it, not that they never intended for people to beat it that way.

Does the ADS work the same way whether you're currently still struggling with minor bosses or only if you've already engaged him?

If ADS works the same way everywhere you are, no exploit was made.
If ADS only works that way when you've already engaged him, I still don't see any problem.

They are very capable at making one-shot enrages. Perhaps they didn't intend people to deal with it that way, but there was literally no "underhanded exploit" made, so they couldn't really change it without raising some questions.

[ispano]

Does the ADS work the same way whether you're currently still struggling with minor bosses or only if you've already engaged him?

If ADS works the same way everywhere you are, no exploit was made.
If ADS only works that way when you've already engaged him, I still don't see any problem.

They are very capable at making one-shot enrages. Perhaps they didn't intend people to deal with it that way, but there was literally no "underhanded exploit" made, so they couldn't really change it without raising some questions.

I never said exploit. I said it wasn't likely intended, like you just said they didn't expect people to bypass all the other mechanics and just brute force heal through the enrage. Doesn't have to be an exploit to be unintended.