Learning to Tank

[kukurumei]

Hm, ok I guess I'm getting mixed advice. As you already noted I'm a newer tank and although I do most things right I'm trying to improve my holding ability. The last guy suggested that Provoke increases the Enmity of the next attack that increases enmity so naturally a Savage Combo with Provoke made sense.

There is basic use of provoke and advance use of provoke. Do not do advance stuff if you don't know advance uses.

Basic use provoke is strictly to get +1 hate. Meaning, from dying, swapping, or never use it at all.

Advance uses of provoke is something much more content heavy. For this case. Yes and no

Fast blade -> provoke -> savage -> rage of halone is what we call a dead start. This is used if you need to peel a monster off someone else really fast, and stable.

Say a monster is attacking a melee for hitting the wrong thing, and he was on it for a while. In this situation
->Provoke bumps you to the top of that monsters hate list
->savage adds a 1 threat +damage on it
->halone adds a 2 threat + damage on it

This makes it impossible for that melee to get back hate even if he is blowing everything on it.

You will probably never need to do this until you get to big full party stuff when you have 2 tanks that need to pass it back and forth.

[Dreufo]

There is basic use of provoke and advance use of provoke. Do not do advance stuff if you don't know advance uses.

*BUMP* Sorry, I was going to reply sooner but I hit my limit lolz

Provoke must be the most misunderstood skill in the game, so thank you for clarifying. Provoke cannot prevent a Yank(pull) but allows you to respond to one effectively. I'm going to get this enmity thing down to a science before my next run with RPs(pugs).

[Foo01]

So now with shield oath, I am still losing aggro to level-synced ARCs or BLMs, but seems to happen less often, and I seem to be able to get them back more easily with provoke.

In any case, I never had this happen before in any dungeon, but in stone vigil, I find that the bosses are fairly straightforward to tank, and actually never wiped once to them. But the mobs were out of control. It take only a Aevis or some other dragon to two jump into the mix and it is a wipe. And I make sure not to tank where that flying dragon flys in fries people. I thought the bosses are supposed to be tougher to clear.