AOE stoneskin outside of combat

[Naunet]

Old WoW raiding, I mean really old like Molten Core, you weren't in combat until you engaged an enemy or healed/buffed someone that was, so groups would just sit one healer out and never cast a spell so they could only raise people that died so the group wouldn't have to worry about battle rez's. I'm not saying there would be a way to drop combat so you could do this, but if there was, then people would find it.

While I appreciate that you're concerned about abuse, there's no way to drop combat like that in dungeons. Bringing it up is kind of a moot point.

I do like the utility behind a short CD ability that turns the next spell cast AoE, though.

[Mcshiggs]

While I appreciate that you're concerned about abuse, there's no way to drop combat like that in dungeons. Bringing it up is kind of a moot point.

Isn't there a room in normal Hauke Manor that you can run in that drops threat from enemies, the one before you get to the first boss? That I am sure was unintended, but people used this method to drop combat to farm the varnish from the room at the end of the hall. That's just one spot, is it unthinkable that it couldn't happen again?

[Bruiser_Cruiser]

I support the AOE SS when out of combat! Lets see it SE!

[Murakamo]

They give you like what? 90 to 120 minutes on raids? If you're planning to use every second of that time, then there's something wrong with the party. Games don't need to be nerved more than it is, taking time to skin everyone is fine, takes literally 30 sec or less. Even less when you have two healers. Stop being lazy people.

This guy honestly has no clue what he's talking about.

[LexSunfire]

If they did this, then the next step would make adloquim aoe as long as you aren't in combat, so you can get the big shield on everyone.

adloquium aoe is already a spell in the game... it's called succor.

[Zhi]

Scale up the manacost with the party members while out of combat if you're so afraid of abuse

[Mcshiggs]

adloquium aoe is already a spell in the game... it's called succor.

Succor has half the healing potency, and shields don't double on crits. I feel sorry for the groups you heal for if you didn't know the difference.

Scale up the manacost with the party members while out of combat if you're so afraid of abuse

You would need to not only scale mana cost, but also cast time if it's going against abuse, so maybe if it's outside of combat, it could hit everyone, but take 8 times the mp and have 8 times the cast time and not be affected by swiftcast, that way lazy white mages still only have to push one button.

[RyuDragnier]

My answer is no. If you can't take the time to reput stoneskin on everybody, then that's a personal problem called laziness.

[LexSunfire]

Succor has half the healing potency, and shields don't double on crits. I feel sorry for the groups you heal for if you didn't know the difference.

Did I say they were the same potency? i'm just saying they both erect barriers. don't need to get all sarcastic and rude. you can put the claws away.

My answer is no. If you can't take the time to reput stoneskin on everybody, then that's a personal problem called laziness.

why does this always get equated to laziness? who likes standing there waiting for a healer to put SS on everyone? how is it lazy to not want to have to wait for it to be done?

You would need to not only scale mana cost, but also cast time if it's going against abuse, so maybe if it's outside of combat, it could hit everyone, but take 8 times the mp and have 8 times the cast time and not be affected by swiftcast, that way lazy white mages still only have to push one button.

this would be defeat the purpose of the proposal. protect doesn't cost 8 times the mp or 8 times the cast time.

[Mcshiggs]

Did I say they were the same potency? i'm just saying they both erect barriers. don't need to get all sarcastic and rude. you can put the claws away.



why does this always get equated to laziness? who likes standing there waiting for a healer to put SS on everyone? how is it lazy to not want to have to wait for it to be done?



this would be defeat the purpose of the proposal. protect doesn't cost 8 times the mp or 8 times the cast time.

You didn't say they both erect barriers, you said that succor was aoe adloquium.

adloquium aoe is already a spell in the game... it's called succor.

In case you forgot what you posted.
As for protect, it is aoe even in combat, so your argument really doesn't make sense, people are talking about making a spell that is not aoe in combat but aoe out of combat.