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  1. #1
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    - Once you've cleared EX primals farm a Wave Axe, it will suffice until you finish your Animus.
    Wave axe sucks (no parry no acc), dual haken is easy to get and has good parry and lots of ACC.
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 05-07-2014 at 09:42 PM.

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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    Wave axe sucks (no parry no acc), dual haken is easy to get and has good parry and lots of ACC.
    Don't give bad advice.... Dual Haken accuracy is nice but you can easily get enough accuracy with current gear to reach cap for t5 without it. Unless you are short on accuracy the wave axe will always be better than the dual haken. In FFXIV majority of the time ilvl trumps all and secondary stats don't add enough of a bonus to really make much difference unless your min/maxing and even then they don't really drastically alter anything. The Wave Axe is going to give you a much higher damage output, which will allow a large lead in threat against some of the i100 weapon players. This will allow you more uptime on SP and SE.

    If your chasing after parry (as the guy below me said which isn't always the best idea) then your better off with the Bravura weapon which has the highest parry of any tanking axe.

    TL;DR Unless your far below the accuracy cap, don't use the Dual Haken. Your better off with Bravura Zenith until you can get the Allagan Axe or the Wave Axe
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    Last edited by Nabian; 05-07-2014 at 10:55 PM.

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    A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider's Avatar
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    Gierness Volstenn
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I did Ultima HM in full DL gear, so it shouldn't be too hard. I think it's more your setup/party that makes the biggest difference in that instance. And knowing what happens in the "final" phase.
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    Robin Ster
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    If you don't have an allagan axe already the Wave axe is plenty good until you can get something i100. The Wave Axe is always better than the Hakken, unless you're missing accuracy on the rest of your gear. I'd use the Tidal Wave over the Animus. Maybe even over the weathered conqueror depending on what High Allagan drops you've got.

    Parry just isn't that great. To go chasing it or using a lower ilvl weapon in order to have more are not smart ideas. The really important thing is to maximize ilvl and keep the accuracy cap.
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    Last edited by Rbstr; 05-07-2014 at 10:42 PM.

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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The OP is on T1 and people talking about high allagan.. Lol

    Your item level is fine to run extremes and T1-5 (assuming enough accuracy for coil). As a tank it will be the most help to study all the fights and their various mechanics - mainly just to keep heat off you from the many a-hole players that don't show much respect for tanks, but also to build confidence (as in, don't be afraid of tanking it!)

    Most i90 Allagan tank gear drops from turns 1-2 which should be easy enough to farm. Turn 4 is a test for off-tanks, approach with caution, the only loot here worth getting is wristlet (the only other tank drop in t4 is gloves). Plan to spend a bit of time wiping on turn 5 until you can get a decent group gellin' together.

    Don't underestimate the Extremes.. They are not as incredibly easy (to complete) as Very Serious Players seem to suggest. Just try to have patience and find people who are competent and driven to complete it, maybe form a static to practice with if you can.

    Best advice I can offer for right now, good luck!
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 05-07-2014 at 11:28 PM.

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    Citizen_Thom's Avatar
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    Talking Crow
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The OP is on T1 and people talking about high allagan.. Lol

    Your item level is fine to run extremes and T1-5 (assuming enough accuracy for coil). As a tank it will be the most help to study all the fights and their various mechanics - mainly just to keep heat off you from the many a-hole players that don't show much respect for tanks, but also to build confidence (as in, don't be afraid of tanking it!)

    Most i90 Allagan tank gear drops from turns 1-2 which should be easy enough to farm. Turn 4 is a test for off-tanks, approach with caution, the only loot here worth getting is wristlet (the only other tank drop in t4 is gloves). Plan to spend a bit of time wiping on turn 5 until you can get a decent group gellin' together.

    Don't underestimate the Extremes.. They are not as incredibly easy (to complete) as Very Serious Players seem to suggest. Just try to have patience and find people who are competent and driven to complete it, maybe form a static to practice with if you can.

    Best advice I can offer for right now, good luck!
    If only I'd known... I had the gloves drop on my first part 4 of coil run. I have ring and earrings so far from 1 and 2, but round 1 and 2 are so much less cranky and rushed than turn 4 ha ha.

    I am thinking that sometime in the next month or so I'll have to try to form a static party. Seems like the best way to attempt some of the end game content.
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    it's time to do Coil 1 - 5, do EX primals and then Coil 6 - 9
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I am on a slow boat with my casual play I believe. My PLD is currently i91, have not completed EX's and have not beatedn T4 on PLD(have on DRG,and BLM though) and have yet to beat T5(not for lack of trying). It is getting tougher out there for tanks that haven't done the content on farm to get in groups and learning parties sometimes end up with people that get frustrated after a few wipes and quit, forgetting the purpose of the group.

    I am currently working on understanding the tank role in T4 and have made it to Profusion as OT in T5. Twisters as BLM, DRG.

    My suggestion is take every opportunity you can to get in PT's for these clears. They are becoming few and far...at least on my server at my playtime.

    THe advice given here is solid in terms of what the focus should be progression wise. Coil1-5, EX's, SBCoB. Upgrade gears as you go.
    Good luck to you!

    Syn
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    Osha Sohma
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I gotta admit, I'm pretty close to despairing of getting a DF clear for anything anymore. As tank I'm pretty helpless to affect whether or not we hit the dps checks or stay alive on Ultima HM, and Garuda Ex seems like more of the same, though keeping the bosses separate and pointed away from the dps is key there.

    edit - that is to say, unless I drop the FC I'm in with some RL friends who don't play much, I'm pretty close to giving up on beating any extreme modes. Coil I guess I can work on learning, but that's a lot of runs for not very much upgrade. Also, the idea of farming Brayflox a soul-destroying number of times to get myth for animus is completely out. I'd rather spend my time in CT to get myth after dailies each day.
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Osha_Sohma View Post
    I gotta admit, I'm pretty close to despairing of getting a DF clear for anything anymore. As tank I'm pretty helpless to affect whether or not we hit the dps checks or stay alive on Ultima HM, and Garuda Ex seems like more of the same, though keeping the bosses separate and pointed away from the dps is key there.

    edit - that is to say, unless I drop the FC I'm in with some RL friends who don't play much, I'm pretty close to giving up on beating any extreme modes. Coil I guess I can work on learning, but that's a lot of runs for not very much upgrade. Also, the idea of farming Brayflox a soul-destroying number of times to get myth for animus is completely out. I'd rather spend my time in CT to get myth after dailies each day.
    Have you considered getting your friends to disband the FC and all of you join a new casual friendly FC together?
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