Raise II and Rebirth exclusive to Conjurer.. am I being pigeon holed as a White Mage?

[Chinook]

The majority of players are ready to accept massive changes to FFXIV, as voted in the official poll few months ago.

It’s clear that 100% of people won’t be happy with every changes, but that’s how democracy works.

They said they’re seriously considering multiple jobs per class (but only one per class at start), so there's a chance you won't be pigeon-holed for too long (and if you really are). Getting worried or afraid on assumptions is a bit pointless at the moment since we do not have detailed job information.

[Cairdeas]

The majority of players are ready to accept massive changes to FFXIV, as voted in the official poll few months ago.

It’s clear that 100% of people won’t be happy with every changes, but that’s how democracy works.

They said they’re seriously considering multiple jobs per class (but only one per class at start), so there's a chance you won't be pigeon-holed for too long (and if you really are). Getting worried or afraid on assumptions is a bit pointless at the moment since we do not have detailed job information.

I want multiple CLASSES per JOB once the JOB is unlocked. IE being able to switch between a Sword and an Axe on Dark Knight, or a Staff, and a Hammer/Shield on White Mage.

[Arcell]

Thats all fine and dandy, But once your using a Specialization that they keep trying to classify as not being part of the Class but its own unique Specialization, then you no longer need to restrict that JOB to that Class. If the job is supposed to be that Special it should be able to stand on its own no matter what Class is attached to it. The class would just determine minor perimeters about how the Job is performed. IE The Difference between being a Heal Spam Tank and a Damage Dealing Tank to maintain hate.

Here I thought the point of that thread was that you wanted to use all weapons at the very least on all jobs. That's all well and good but it's not how SE decided to go on this one. Until jobs come out it looks like Conjurer is going to be a bigger healer than Thaum because of this. Also if that Famitsu fan translation is accurate and anything to go by multiple classes unlock certain jobs so there is various weapon potential there.

Once jobs come out White Mage will be the healer and Black Mage won't. The classes aren't meant for party play and the jobs are so they really won't matter anymore in this capacity. All I think they should do for the time being is tell us what classes are going to become what jobs so people can adequately prepare.

The dev team is going to make decisions people like and decisions people don't like, not a lot is going to change their mind. Even Yoshida's said that once they change it drastically once that's it, there's no going back. What you have to decide is if you like the decisions and if the ones you don't like matter enough that you no longer want to play.

[syntaxlies]

their plan is to benefit the full run of the game, not to respect the people who have played it the past year.

[Chinook]

I want

I like how your posts are always filled with "I WANT".

[Cairdeas]

their plan is to benefit the full run of the game, not to respect the people who have played it the past year.

Personally I think they should do it to respect the people who have been playing final fantasy for the last two+ decades. You know the people who played FFT's where you could have an army of white mages with axes roaming the countryside throwing math, jumps, and geomancy at mobs, then crushing them with their axe.

I mean. To be honest, FFT had the best version of the job system to date. Especially with skills like "Use: Weapon" and such.

I like how your posts are always filled with "I WANT".

And I love how comments from anyone with "Bluegartr" in their signature or mention they are from there, are attempts to try and insult me or other non-Bluegartr forum goers. Really Classy. Thats why I ignore you guys.

[Fated]

Too early to tell, stop whining for the sake of whining.

All we know at this point is that when the Job system is FIRST RELEASED it will be 1 Job for each Class. They could very well give Conjurer both BLM AND WHM while giving Thamauturge a different Job(s). The list that came from interviews is not confirmed for the original implementation of the Job system.

[Katella_Avenlea]

They are better off leaving Mage paths open to both classes out of respect to the players for making a choice with the Armoury system when it was first released and sticking with it.

With that mentality, nothing would ever progress or get better.

Consider that the game is a work in progress at this point in time. Its odd to me just how entitled people seem to feel and how tied to old ways people are. The majority voted for change, and that is what the devs are delivering. It may mess up some of our preconceived notions, may cause some reworking of plans but so be it. Its just growing pains, afterall no pain no gain right? I'm fully prepared to refocus any plans once there are real definitive goal in place. There is no need even worrying about it until then.

Storyline lore, maps, roles, jobs, even races.. there's pending changes everywhere so don't get so attached to your plans. Roll with the punches..in the end it will all be worked out and maybe turn out even better than what you originally had in mind.

As a Final Fantasy player.. I personally feel more respected by them striving to make things better, than for them to adhere to what the playerbase voted out..

[Neptune]

No one voted to scrap the Armoury system or have their character ninja-wiped.

[Chinook]

No one voted to scrap the Armoury system or have their character ninja-wiped.

Oh my god, I didn't know that was their plan ! Thanks for keeping me informed.