This is not FFXI.

[Chromeo_El_Lobo]

FFXIII played just like FFXII right?

FFXII played just like FFX right?

Point is, Final Fantasy games keep certain elements well known in the series, but always try many new things, usually scrapping old battle systems and gameplay mechanics for brand new ones.

[Spuffin]

How can you make a completely new FINAL FANTASY MMO? You just cant. You simply cant make a different MMO other than using the same great aspects that make a good MMO a good MMO only by simply changing the story line, characters, materials exct.

Just take a good look at FINAL FANTASY 14... one look makes you think immediately of 11... why? Because it's the same damn cover but with better graphics... YES they should have kept a lot of things that made 11 great but also added things that made AION WOW and soon to be TERA great while adding animations and elements used in their previous FINAL FANTASY games.

What really would have done the trick is if they turned all the weapon skill animations into animations just as fluid and bad ass as the FINAL FANTASY 8 or 10 animations.

[Ranka]

How can you make a completely new FINAL FANTASY MMO? You just cant. You simply cant make a different MMO other than using the same great aspects that make a good MMO a good MMO only by simply changing the story line, characters, materials exct.

Just take a good look at FINAL FANTASY 14... one look makes you think immediately of 11... why? Because it's the same damn cover but with better graphics... YES they should have kept a lot of things that made 11 great but also added things that made AION WOW and soon to be TERA great while adding animations and elements used in their previous FINAL FANTASY games.

What really would have done the trick is if they turned all the weapon skill animations into animations just as fluid and bad ass as the FINAL FANTASY 8 or 10 animations.

You really have missed my point completely. EVERY MMO has something that makes it unqiue, FFXI had those things. I am talking about those, not things a crap load of MMO's have, and things i expect them to have. This FF should have the basic things the other final fantasys had, chocobos, classic FF names, NM's(essentially NM are just bosses or minibosses). It is what makes a FF game FF. I am asking for the points made that are NOT those. We do need things from FFXI, generic MMO setting that FFXI was really good at, but we do not need the exact same specifications, as in specific extra's of game content/gameplay that defined FFXI. We need something that defines FFXIV. Well if you do not get this I do not care, not going to make it any easier to understand than this. Last reply post I will be doing on this thread.

[gifthorse]

You really have missed my point completely. EVERY MMO has something that makes it unqiue, FFXI had those things. I am talking about those, not things a crap load of MMO's have, and things i expect them to have. This FF should have the basic things the other final fantasys had, chocobos, classic FF names, NM's(essentially NM are just bosses or minibosses). It is what makes a FF game FF. I am asking for the points made that are NOT those. We do need things from FFXI, generic MMO setting that FFXI was really good at, but we do not need the exact same specifications, as in specific extra's of game content/gameplay that defined FFXI. We need something that defines FFXIV. Well if you do not get this I do not care, not going to make it any easier to understand than this. Last reply post I will be doing on this thread.

If you were on my server I would give you sooo much free stuff for this thread.

People are so used to digesting content from MMOs like WoW and FFXI they've lost all vision. That's the impression i get. Every single suggestion is something another MMO had or did. It's like, if you want housing, that's great, but we don't need a mog house. It can be much more flexible and amazing. The moghouse system was so limited and claustrophobic. If you have to use a suggestion for housing, then I'd rather people use Mortal Online as a reference point, since it was obviously the superior game in that one regard.

Just because FFXI was a good game, and just because FFXIV is its spiritual predecessor, doesn't mean that in 2011 everything from FFXI is still worthwhile. FFXI suffered so many technical limitations, which is in part why many of its features needed to be designed the way they were. You just couldn't build your own house in a 3D MMO from ten years ago because it would have been technologically infeasible. But now we have that ability, and I would hate to see the potential squandered because people only call for what they know: mog houses etc.

This is just an isolated incident, there are so many other examples, apart from housing, where people request specific things from FFXI rather than simply call for their fundamental equivalent. If you want large scale warfare and instances, that's fine, but don't ask for assault or dynamis. People need to be waaay less specific.

[Draven]

How can you make a completely new FINAL FANTASY MMO? You just cant.

They can the same way they make a new Final Fantasy console game every couple of years.

Final Fantasy XII was a completely different game then Final Fantasy 10 and it worked fantastically imo. It's a shame they couldn't do something similar with XIV after XI.

SE is a unique company that is going to make unique features for it's unique games, both good and bad. And so that's where we are with XIV.

It's my personal belief that trying to emulate XI is a bad thing. All things need to evolve into something new and mother nature does it everyday. Sometimes those creations thrive and sometimes they die. That's just the way it is. SE will continue to learn and evolve just like everything else does.