Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
the point from DF is using it for learning

while PF is used for clear/farm
THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS!!
i cannot agree with this person at all

Learning should occur any time you have the chance, not just DF. If a level 50 PLD doesn't know that he should have spirits within or the gear, maybe he wasnt informed how to find that information, or to get to the quests for it, people in duty finder shoulda informed him, or he should be asking questions to his fc/ls/random strangers.

PF was made for whatever you want to form, training parties, fun runs, farming, or just random stuff (imagination is your limitation)

now likewise, if you try to give him information and he refuses to listen, kick him to the curb and get a new person, but if you're not telling him and he doesn't know, you are just as much part of the problem (informing him of what he can do to get those skills/gear)