Just had a pretty entertaining Pharos run.

[Versiroth]

You're there to DPS and you decided that you'd purposely gimp your reason for existing "just in case" the tank sucked?. If I was the tank in that run, I'd have kicked you for harassment. Your spot would have been filled in about 10 seconds.

This is the same thing as a healer that tries to DPS while the tank is nearing death (DPS when you can, but healing is the priority) or a tank that tanks in his DPS stance. It's going to make the group more difficult and should be seen as harassment.

[Wintersandman]

A Tank shouldn't be insulted to see a Tank pet out whether it's Topaz at low leveled dungeons, and let's all be honest to ourselves GLDs at this level have trouble holding enmity on groups, or Titan later on.

There are so many things wrong with this. Instead of being elitist and using a tank pet wouldn't it be better served for the overall community to offer advice and then if you get no results bring out the tank pet? Also Gladiators/Paladins can hold onto groups just fine. Maybe not as well as Warriors but it can still be done. Just to me comes across as a Napoleon syndrome when obviously you should be trying to be part of a team. This whole thing is insulting on many levels. I have also seen titan tank and he doesn't handle threat well, which makes this even more disturbing.

[scarebearz]

I have only seen Titan egi used in level 50 content a couple of times.

The first was being a troll (like Huntington) using it to pull the Bosses in CT before the actual tanks, causing raid wide wipes.

The 2nd was in Brayfox when the tank left after 1 wipe. The Summoner said he could use it until we got a replacement tank, to clear trash. We ended up clearing Brayfox 3-man with his pet tanking. That is how a Decent Summoner uses Tittan Egi to *Help* the team.

[Huntington]

Oh look your in Huntington's FC, what a surprise...

The issue people have is with this guys attitude, he is obviously a poor player at best and simply a troll at worst.

He did not use a tank pet to "save the day", or because the tank was failing, he used it from the start of the DF.

Using a tank pet over a dps pet is gimping his dps and not something a half decent smn would do, unless it was needed.

The best thing about your posts Scarebearz is you barely have any ground to stand on in half of them. You come in at the last minute to a thread, make a smartass remark, then make up things about other players based on you never actually seeing them perform in the game.



You have leveled two battle classes to 50, Arcanist and neither WAR nor PLD being something you've used extensively. This starts you off from a ground of not knowing what you're talking about. You don't have any experience tanking in this game, and you've used Arcanist a significantly small amount.
A) You probably don't know how to use pets or the class well. B) You probably don't know how to tank in XIV.
So if I'm going to be a poor player and a troll from your little to zero experience of seeing me play, you could just as easily be a troll yourself. Posts riddled with emotes and assumptions coupled with strong smells of idiocy when you find an opportunity to seem like someone who actually commits any worthwhile content to the site otherwise.

The tank messed up in the first minute of the dungeon, on the first 5 adds, Titan was good as soon as the dungeon started.

[Huntington]

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I literally said I was keeping Titan out, and the tank went out and wiped on the first 5 adds in the dungeon, there was barely even a minute's time elapsed before he screwed up. My fault? Not at all. But Titan being out in that short span prevented everyone else from dying. Maybe if he died 30 minutes on and Titan was out this could be a serious issue for me, but that sense of a wipe came as fast as a car crash when I got in when he ended up dying seconds later.


No matter how well you know your role at any level, when there is such little difference in gear and you've attempted to help a tank hold aggro and they keep losing it anyways, gear isn't the problem. It's literally the fact that two hits of anything regardless of how hard a hit they were will pull off the tank. I've done Tam Tara way too many times to not notice this. MRD doesn't have this problem since Overpower does damage with an enmity generation, Flash does no damage and is a flat increase, meaning it can not do enough very easily.

It's true, you need to have some stones if you're going to tank in this game with how most of the community is. Would I be insulted if a Pet-Class had their tank pet out? No, because I see it as an extra tank on the field helping me out, and if the owner controls it well enough, it's going to help me out because there is no such thing as stealing hate with Pets, they can't Provoke off me. And if it has more than me and it dies, I'll still have more enmity than the rest of the party, and the enemy will then go for me like normal. The pet can take hits while I'm still building threat on what's out. If a Tank is going to have a hissyfit about the pet then he needs to grow a pair, how hard is it to say "Hey SMN, I understand your concerns, the Duty Finder isn't the most hospitable place, and you want to feel like you have some control over things in-case it goes south, so keep your pet out till you feel like you can trust me to keep things away from you and the others, alright?"
It's that simple. It's not rocket science.

[Viridiana]

The best thing about your posts Scarebearz is you barely have any ground to stand on in half of them. You come in at the last minute to a thread, make a smartass remark, then make up things about other players based on you never actually seeing them perform in the game. . .

The tank messed up in the first minute of the dungeon, on the first 5 adds, Titan was good as soon as the dungeon started.

1) I didn't know that the first page of a thread was already considered the last minute.

2) Titan was rude as soon as the dungeon started. We've covered this already. Try to keep up.

[Huntington]

If I get paired with a SMN that insists on using Titan-Egi in any dungeon, I would think that person is 1) New or 2) Incompetent. Considering it's Pharos Sirius (a level 50 dungeon introduced in 2.1-so not new) and previous sensational threads (where you are the valiant hero always saving the day from everybody else always screwing up) you've made, I'm going with 2. Anyway, the WAR was right about low DPS. Any competent DPS will pull hate off Titan-Egi pretty easy. He just doesn't do enough damage, so either DPS have hold back quite a bit or the DPS is really low to begin with.

So joke threads and things made for giggles mean someone is incompetent? Might as well just be a killjoy and say we shouldn't ever have holidays because someone is going to be off work and enjoying it. And enjoying things is just awful huh?
For the other threads, yeah, I run across some pretty **** parties pretty often, except I'm actually going to use these forums and talk about it from time to time. If something evidently stupid happens, chances are I'll make a topic to talk about it, then when the *****s and ***holes start showing up, that's when it brings out my bad side. I don't provoke anyone to respond negatively right in the OP, people choose to go that route with it because they feel that they're putting someone in their place to get props from all their online buddies, like Scarebearz who always shows up when one of these threads go like this. There for actual discussion? Nope, never.

I've had Titan hold hate against BLMs who are the Kings of pulling off Tanks before, it's really not that difficult or hard to tank things with...

[Huntington]

1) I didn't know that the first page of a thread was already considered the last minute.

2) Titan was rude as soon as the dungeon started. We've covered this already. Try to keep up.

1) They certainly made sure of that by posting 4 separate times instead of just editing content into an original post like always. They try their hardest to make sure I see their posts when half the time there's barely anything worth responding to.

2) 1 minute in and someone thinks it rude means they have an ego, apparently you do too if you find this so insulting to the point you want to sue over it.

[Huntington]

You're there to DPS and you decided that you'd purposely gimp your reason for existing "just in case" the tank sucked?. If I was the tank in that run, I'd have kicked you for harassment. Your spot would have been filled in about 10 seconds.

This is the same thing as a healer that tries to DPS while the tank is nearing death (DPS when you can, but healing is the priority) or a tank that tanks in his DPS stance. It's going to make the group more difficult and should be seen as harassment.

And you would be abusing the kick function in those 10 seconds. He failed in the first minute, I preemptively called a mistake and that makes me the bad guy that told the Tank in party chat just how bad he really is huh? /sarcasm (Though I've never actually done anything of the sort before.)


>If someone dies to something out of their control, it makes things take longer and therefore they're harassing the party.
>A Healer didn't remove Cleric Stance fast enough and the tank died accidentally before they could heal, a mistake, and therefore they're harassing the group.

Those are some pretty extremist standards for harassment you have there, have you checked with anyone to actually make sure that they're valid?

[Huntington]

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I'm as much of an elitist as Microsoft isn't actually a greedy company.
Offer advice to what? He didn't tell the healer he was doing a big pull, ran ahead while cracking jokes about Titan, pulled too much, wasted his Vengeance cooldown, died, Titan prevented the other three from dying. I can't telepathically know that the tank is about to go Leeroy Jenkins, there's no advice to give when I don't know what to give advice on.
I've used a Paladin a lot, I detest using it when I have to control more than 3 mobs and I never touch it after getting WAR to 50 even when PLD was 50 first.

"Napoleon Complex"
I'm short therefore more aggressive? lol wut

I've also mained SMN for a long time, he holds just fine. Just fine.