BLM Buffs Inc!

[ViviAnimus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.lhr82vvqxo4y
According to this our DPS should raise slightly. I mean, are they for real? Slightly, what does that even mean?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Updates/page2

Q17: When are you planning to buff the black mage job?

A17: The adjustments will go live in patch 2.3. The general direction of the buff is “increasing DPS on a single target.” Please note that the adjustment will not be only for the black mage and we are currently looking into other jobs as well.
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What does that even mean? Are they planning to buff other classes or debuff them. Seems to make like the BLM will remain obsolete if I read that. All DPS classes are better than BLM if you master them. And what belance is he talking about? The fact that we have the strongest aoe exept for the fact that we can only use it in dungeons? I have every single DPS class at level 50 and BLM used to be my favourite because I always like Black Mages. But it seems to me like this class is being treated like trash. BLM has become absolutely useless.

[Instrumentality]

Wow. People really will complain about anything. Amazing.

[SongJoohee]

Wow. People really will complain about anything. Amazing.

There's currently 0 reason to take a Black Mage to Coil 6-9 instead of Summoner. Zero, you get less damage, less mobility, less utility, less everything, except AOE, which isn't in a single end game fight, they designed a class based around moving as little as possible with a speciality of AOE and then made all the end-game raids movement heavy and completely lacking in AOE. Last time this happened it was with Warrior in Coil 1-5 and they got a major overhaul pretty rapidly. Black Mages are being treated like trash in the game, get's a vague response from the dev who apparently plays Black Mage and gets told the much needed buff is still a good 6+ weeks away, depending on how many times they decide to delay the patch this time.

Sorry, it's too long. The buffs should've been 2.25 or 2.28, when the developer and community acknowledged Black Mage is at a disadvantage in Coil 6-9 not 3-4 months later when everyone has pretty much abandoned Black Mage in favor of Summoner. I am grateful my Coil team let me stay as the Black Mage class I enjoy instead of forcing me down Summoner, but the extremely slow, and quite frankly pathetic reply to the question, along with various other issues I have in 2.2 and the last LL has completely killed my motivation to play this game regardless of their support.

If it wasn't useful for speed runs there would be 0 reasons to even have BLM in the game at the moment.

[Instrumentality]

If it wasn't useful for speed runs there would be 0 reasons to even have BLM in the game at the moment.

So what I got from this is that you A) Don't like turret DPS B) Don't understand what turret DPS is or how to play it properly and C) think the buffs that you are guaranteed to receive (That you don't need for competitive DPS, just like monks did not need their buffs in any way, shape or form) for your turret DPS class that I dearly hope don't make you anything less of a turret DPS class are insufficient and too late.

That's cool. I can respect that opinion. Feel free to quit playing turret DPS whenever you like.

[Aikaal]

There's currently 0 reason to take a Black Mage to Coil 6-9 instead of Summoner.

I disagree.

Turn 6 - You can flare bulbs on tank -> DPS gain.
Turn 8 - You can flare Dreadnaught + boss (Twice if you have convert up) -> DPS gain. Infinite mana!
Turn 9* - You can flare Ghosts + Nael for 1 add burst. Aetherial Manipulation. Manawall/Manaward defensive buff. Multidots spread targets**

*For this turn, only exceptionnal Black Mages can pull their weight. It's not given to anyone.
** Many BLMs don't see the point to multi-thunder more than one add. 3 Thunder debuffs = 3 times 5% chances to get a proc, why wouldn't you do that? Of course it's less damage than Summoner but it's still a DPS gain.

[Cherub]

I disagree.

Turn 6 - You can flare bulbs on tank -> DPS gain.
Turn 8 - You can flare Dreadnaught + boss (Twice if you have convert up) -> DPS gain. Infinite mana!
Turn 9* - You can flare Ghosts + Nael for 1 add burst. Aetherial Manipulation. Manawall/Manaward defensive buff. Multidots spread targets**

*For this turn, only exceptionnal Black Mages can pull their weight. It's not given to anyone.
** Many BLMs don't see the point to multi-thunder more than one add. 3 Thunder debuffs = 3 times 5% chances to get a proc, why wouldn't you do that? Of course it's less damage than Summoner but it's still a DPS gain.

I avoided spoiling myself from the t9 boss up to this point. Thank you very much :/

[Alkimi]

** Many BLMs don't see the point to multi-thunder more than one add. 3 Thunder debuffs = 3 times 5% chances to get a proc, why wouldn't you do that? Of course it's less damage than Summoner but it's still a DPS gain.

I really can't think of a situation where this is a thing.

If the 3 mobs are close together then just use an AoE rotation, if they're spread out then chances are stuff needs to die fast and that won't happen with you taking 7.5-10.5 seconds to cast whatever tier of Thunder on everything.

Thundercloud procs do more damage than Fire, yes, but they still take up a GCD and are far too reliant on randomness. Hence why the only really optimal time to cast Thunder spells is during Umbral Ice phases where you need something to fill the gap while MP recharges.

[ViviAnimus]

There you have it, instrumentality. I disklike people like you, to be honest. You complain once and immediatly the world has gone to shits.

[HitoYuudai]

looks like Instrumentality is just another person that doesn't understand anything but keeps talking. sadly it's just a waste of time to try talking to him

[ViviAnimus]

Turret DPS would be great, mate. Unfortunately, only on T8 you can turret DPS. And EVEN so, on my BLM on T8, I can get to about 350 DPS while on my SMN I can do about 360-370. Even when a Black Mage stands still almost all of the time, the DPS will still be on the lower side if you have equally skilled players playing other classes. Is that really so hard to understand? The Black Mage buff is very much needed. I hope you see the contradiction in a turret DPS not being able to even get over all the rest of the DPS while FULLY utilizing not moving, using everything the right way.