BLM Buffs Inc!

[blackermage]

2 Bards. Tower Tapping should be making very little difference to your DPS as you should be moving into the zone when a proc is up to go to the tower and then aethering back to your party stack.

Pretty much. Right before I needed to tap 3rd and 5th towers will always be a ballistic followed by a gaseous. If those aren't trapping me then I will go to the towers asap once I do get a proc (I move back if there's a gaseous on me though, not sure how hard it hits on a single target but I've never risked it. I should try one day though).

TBH those numbers on T8 aren't very impressive (now that iI have 110 wep plus HA gloves!! ). When I do them next week I'll be sure to have a parse up. I agree though; tapping towers should not hinder your dps in any way (since you usually have 15 seconds to get a proc and then tap it).

Edit: Also Eunji, are you the same Eunji who played TERA? I was berserker on LoT and if so omg message me on skype plz.

[ViviAnimus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.lhr82vvqxo4y
According to this our DPS should raise slightly. I mean, are they for real? Slightly, what does that even mean?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Updates/page2

Q17: When are you planning to buff the black mage job?

A17: The adjustments will go live in patch 2.3. The general direction of the buff is “increasing DPS on a single target.” Please note that the adjustment will not be only for the black mage and we are currently looking into other jobs as well.
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What does that even mean? Are they planning to buff other classes or debuff them. Seems to make like the BLM will remain obsolete if I read that. All DPS classes are better than BLM if you master them. And what belance is he talking about? The fact that we have the strongest aoe exept for the fact that we can only use it in dungeons? I have every single DPS class at level 50 and BLM used to be my favourite because I always like Black Mages. But it seems to me like this class is being treated like trash. BLM has become absolutely useless.

[Instrumentality]

Wow. People really will complain about anything. Amazing.

[SongJoohee]

Wow. People really will complain about anything. Amazing.

There's currently 0 reason to take a Black Mage to Coil 6-9 instead of Summoner. Zero, you get less damage, less mobility, less utility, less everything, except AOE, which isn't in a single end game fight, they designed a class based around moving as little as possible with a speciality of AOE and then made all the end-game raids movement heavy and completely lacking in AOE. Last time this happened it was with Warrior in Coil 1-5 and they got a major overhaul pretty rapidly. Black Mages are being treated like trash in the game, get's a vague response from the dev who apparently plays Black Mage and gets told the much needed buff is still a good 6+ weeks away, depending on how many times they decide to delay the patch this time.

Sorry, it's too long. The buffs should've been 2.25 or 2.28, when the developer and community acknowledged Black Mage is at a disadvantage in Coil 6-9 not 3-4 months later when everyone has pretty much abandoned Black Mage in favor of Summoner. I am grateful my Coil team let me stay as the Black Mage class I enjoy instead of forcing me down Summoner, but the extremely slow, and quite frankly pathetic reply to the question, along with various other issues I have in 2.2 and the last LL has completely killed my motivation to play this game regardless of their support.

If it wasn't useful for speed runs there would be 0 reasons to even have BLM in the game at the moment.

[ViviAnimus]

There you have it, instrumentality. I disklike people like you, to be honest. You complain once and immediatly the world has gone to shits.

[Instrumentality]

If it wasn't useful for speed runs there would be 0 reasons to even have BLM in the game at the moment.

So what I got from this is that you A) Don't like turret DPS B) Don't understand what turret DPS is or how to play it properly and C) think the buffs that you are guaranteed to receive (That you don't need for competitive DPS, just like monks did not need their buffs in any way, shape or form) for your turret DPS class that I dearly hope don't make you anything less of a turret DPS class are insufficient and too late.

That's cool. I can respect that opinion. Feel free to quit playing turret DPS whenever you like.

[HitoYuudai]

looks like Instrumentality is just another person that doesn't understand anything but keeps talking. sadly it's just a waste of time to try talking to him

[ViviAnimus]

Turret DPS would be great, mate. Unfortunately, only on T8 you can turret DPS. And EVEN so, on my BLM on T8, I can get to about 350 DPS while on my SMN I can do about 360-370. Even when a Black Mage stands still almost all of the time, the DPS will still be on the lower side if you have equally skilled players playing other classes. Is that really so hard to understand? The Black Mage buff is very much needed. I hope you see the contradiction in a turret DPS not being able to even get over all the rest of the DPS while FULLY utilizing not moving, using everything the right way.

[Instrumentality]

Turret DPS would be great, mate. Unfortunately, only on T8 you can turret DPS. And EVEN so, on my BLM on T8, I can get to about 350 DPS while on my SMN I can do about 360-370. Even when a Black Mage stands still almost all of the time, the DPS will still be on the lower side if you have equally skilled players playing other classes. Is that really so hard to understand? The Black Mage buff is very much needed. I hope you see the contradiction in a turret DPS not being able to even get over all the rest of the DPS while FULLY utilizing not moving, using everything the right way.

My group's black mage, with an average ilvl of mostly equivalent and equally skilled fellow DPS, is ahead or behind my group's DRG and SMN by 1 to 2% depending on procs, and is ahead of the bard (on t8, which is me with the High Allagan bow) by around 7%. The only dps that is an outlier is the MNK, and he is only 8% ahead on average. There have even been pulls where he was outparsing everyone by up to 2%.

I don't know what to tell you. He could be the ~1% that makes a class massively outperform what it's supposed to do, but I don't think so. The skill floor on Black Mage as a class is pretty low (It's very easy to be bad at knowing how to stand still in a fight, and I mean this honestly), but the skill ceiling seems to be extremely competitive with other DPS classes outside of monks on average.

[HitoYuudai]

My group's black mage, with an average ilvl of mostly equivalent and equally skilled fellow DPS, is ahead or behind my group's DRG and SMN by 1 to 2% depending on procs, and is ahead of the bard (on t8, which is me with the High Allagan bow) by around 7%. The only dps that is an outlier is the MNK, and he is only 8% ahead on average. There have even been pulls where he was outparsing everyone by up to 2%

sorry to tell you, but your DRG, SMN & Monk really should improve their playstyle then