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    Which is essentially saying "oh sure, X class can do Y dps, no problem, we'll just fudge it!"

    A monk who never has to do Dragon Kick should outparse a monk who does.
    A group with 2 bards, alternating Foe's, and letting a BLM, maybe 2 BLMs, double Raging Flare the 3 slugs under a Battle Voiced Foe's, (to save the LB) will always magically have a BLM parsing MUCH higher than a regular composition.

    IDK, I am not trying to be an ass or call anyone out saying they did this or whatnot. Frankly, if your group is so well geared and so skilled that you wanted to have some fun and did some weird variation of the usual methods, more power to ya.
    But if you then turn around and say that the results of your modified strategy should be considered the norm... then we have a problem.

    I remember how, back when Titan Extreme was new, and people loved XIVAPP, there was a BLM who showed how he did about 40% of the group's dps and was at about 400-500 dps on Titan EX.
    However, this was shown as a single bar graph, showing his name, his dps, and what % of the total his personal dps was.
    Well we later found out that this was his dps right after doing a Raging Double Swiftcast Flare on Titan + 2 Gaolers... This was a 4-6 second parse on 3 targets... We then laughed a bit since thats kinda low.
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    Why is it that there always must be a certain person who loses all of the powers of deduction. Is it really so hard to calculate other possiblilites? I am not even a hardcore gamer but I consider myself to be more than capable. I just think it's suspicious that there is a DPS gap of 50-80 when the BLM's rotation doesn't even allow it (in this case). Why do I make this claim? Because as I have said before, I use my cooldowns effectively, use AM, continue casting and all of the other stuff that has been said before.
    All I demand is one single video of a BLM who does the DPS that has been claimed here. How is that even attacking someone? I never used an insult, I just showed scepticism, and I still do!
    So either people come with some concrete proof, or they should remain silent. As I said before. Personal anecdotes are no logical proof. Even pictures are neglectable. The only thing I don't do what does cause a DPS increase is using potions.
    Another thing that might be a cause is the difference in gear.
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    I see soms Black Mages who have overmelded gear. I go with the Coil drops and try and build a SS build. My determination was like 230, critical hit around 500 and spell speed around 480. I see some Black mages with 335 determination which is 115 more than what I have. If it's true that 1 intelligence is about 5 det, than that's 23 intelligence and that is a lot! Sometimes I think that spell speed is absolutly usesless, regardless of what people say.
    But yeah, it just shows that your simplistic reasoning, Uninstall, just doesn't cut it. There are multiple factors that might cause more DPS. One: the claim can be purely false, two the gear might differ and three I might indeed be less skilled than others, which is actually very true.
    But again, I demand solid proof.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntWUqpFcuBk
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1720787/

    This is a video before I actually used AE and learnt to manage better and I have improved quite a bit since then. I will put up videos of T6 and T7 and then we'll see what goes wrong.
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    I agree with you, vivi. I'd like to see proof rather than just claims. I know I have room to improve, but sustained 340dps blm on t6 (and even more on the t7+8) is highly doubtful and i'd like to be proven wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween View Post
    I agree with you, vivi. I'd like to see proof rather than just claims. I know I have room to improve, but sustained 340dps blm on t6 (and even more on the t7+8) is highly doubtful and i'd like to be proven wrong.
    The night before the T6 I posted earlier, I went with other FC members to try to clear T8 for the week (since it was about to reset anyways).
    http://imgur.com/s16XlJm

    I was on tower tapping duty (every other set) and that was about it I think. Might have hit 1 mine at the end because our usual mine popper had allagan field.
    Not my best work, but I had the other data loaded up anyways.


    I wish I could give you a good T7 parse except I'm terrible at that fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackermage View Post
    I wish I could give you a good T7 parse except I'm terrible at that fight.
    whatever your parse is, it's probably still much better than mine lol. i'm i96 but I can't reach 300+dps on 2nd coil fights
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackermage View Post
    The night before the T6 I posted earlier, I went with other FC members to try to clear T8 for the week (since it was about to reset anyways).
    http://imgur.com/s16XlJm

    I was on tower tapping duty (every other set) and that was about it I think. Might have hit 1 mine at the end because our usual mine popper had allagan field.
    Not my best work, but I had the other data loaded up anyways.
    2 Bards. Tower Tapping should be making very little difference to your DPS as you should be moving into the zone when a proc is up to go to the tower and then aethering back to your party stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    2 Bards. Tower Tapping should be making very little difference to your DPS as you should be moving into the zone when a proc is up to go to the tower and then aethering back to your party stack.
    Pretty much. Right before I needed to tap 3rd and 5th towers will always be a ballistic followed by a gaseous. If those aren't trapping me then I will go to the towers asap once I do get a proc (I move back if there's a gaseous on me though, not sure how hard it hits on a single target but I've never risked it. I should try one day though).

    TBH those numbers on T8 aren't very impressive (now that iI have 110 wep plus HA gloves!! ). When I do them next week I'll be sure to have a parse up. I agree though; tapping towers should not hinder your dps in any way (since you usually have 15 seconds to get a proc and then tap it).

    Edit: Also Eunji, are you the same Eunji who played TERA? I was berserker on LoT and if so omg message me on skype plz.
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    I don't record runs, though I do have some outdated parses from ACT (I usually stop parsing once we 1-shot the encounter i.e. the week following the first clear). Would those be sufficient?
    I can clearly say though for each turn I play as greedily as possible to do as much DPS as possible.
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    It wouldn't hurt at all. But of course I am looking for 300+ DPS on T6 and T7. T6 should be absolutely possible, I say. But yes, it would be appreciated.
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