BLM Buffs Inc!

[xEscaflownex]

You are right, you caught me, I cant break 300 DPS on any turn, BLM is super weak, please buff them nao!

[ViviAnimus]

That claim was never made. It's definitely possible to break 300 DPS but on T6 or 7 it's just nonsense. It is possible when the RNG Gods are upon you perhaps and when you have a level 110 weapon. BLM really needs a buff. But show me some proof of you though. I am actually interested because it means I can become better. And get better by a lot so it seems.

[Sleigh]

Personally, I don't believe anything you say, Esca. I know for a fact that Monks get 350-380 DPS.

If we're talking about T8, our MNK has scored over 460 with i115 weapon but minimal i110 on his left side, and someone else doing his Dragon Kicks. Even with "just" i110 weapon it's pretty easy to score over 400 on T8.

I could see Escaflowne's numbers being right; as always with claims of DPS, it mostly depends on the strategy they used, levels of gear, comp, and duration of the fight. If in T6 their strategy is to, say, have their BLM do double Flare on the 3 slugs and boss at the same time with double Foe's playing, I don't see an issue with a 330 DPS claim (not saying 330 is impossible otherwise). If they end their fight close to a RS usage it'll be 10-20 more than a fight that goes on an extra minute beyond that, stuff like that. Maybe a 2 BRD comp, both of them popping Ethers, for maximum Foe's up-time. You just have to take perspective that the situation you have as BLM might not let you do as much as another BLM's situation allows him to do.

[Kenji1134]

Which is essentially saying "oh sure, X class can do Y dps, no problem, we'll just fudge it!"

A monk who never has to do Dragon Kick should outparse a monk who does.
A group with 2 bards, alternating Foe's, and letting a BLM, maybe 2 BLMs, double Raging Flare the 3 slugs under a Battle Voiced Foe's, (to save the LB) will always magically have a BLM parsing MUCH higher than a regular composition.

IDK, I am not trying to be an ass or call anyone out saying they did this or whatnot. Frankly, if your group is so well geared and so skilled that you wanted to have some fun and did some weird variation of the usual methods, more power to ya.
But if you then turn around and say that the results of your modified strategy should be considered the norm... then we have a problem.

I remember how, back when Titan Extreme was new, and people loved XIVAPP, there was a BLM who showed how he did about 40% of the group's dps and was at about 400-500 dps on Titan EX.
However, this was shown as a single bar graph, showing his name, his dps, and what % of the total his personal dps was.
Well we later found out that this was his dps right after doing a Raging Double Swiftcast Flare on Titan + 2 Gaolers... This was a 4-6 second parse on 3 targets... We then laughed a bit since thats kinda low.

[Kenji1134]

You're welcome... Couldnt resist. =)

[Exstal]

http://puu.sh/8VXj3.jpg

From a friend from an unaffiliated group to me that I have nothing to do with, and I am certainly not in their group. Also their other MNK forgot Fist of Fire, he's very bad and was definitely not me.

I can't figure out why my ACT says Monks have 173 DPS with BLMs doing 260+. It's probably due to log not being found but I'm not sure where this is located.

[hamsteak]

I can't figure out why my ACT says Monks have 173 DPS with BLMs doing 260+. It's probably due to log not being found but I'm not sure where this is located.

sometimes autoattacks get separated

[ViviAnimus]

But this is with someone else doing the Dragon kicks and stuff, no? It's still a pretty impressive number, but it's not the norm. I am still sceptical about it though. I'd much rather see a video. It seems weird to me that you say that the other monk forgot FoF and that he's very very bad. It's almost as if your friend told you this in order to prove a point? But anyway, it's still a picture and it only tells me that Monk is incredibly overpowered if you are able to get this kind of result. @Sleigh
Then I must also add that your logic is flawed when you say: 'Because the Monk did that much damage -> Therefore the numbers being claimed by Esca are true. 370 DPS on a SMN seems about right and very good. A BLM doesn't even come close unless the RNG is upon him or her.

[Uninstall]

But this is with someone else doing the Dragon kicks and stuff, no? It's still a pretty impressive number, but it's not the norm. I am still sceptical about it though. I'd much rather see a video. It seems weird to me that you say that the other monk forgot FoF and that he's very very bad. It's almost as if your friend told you this in order to prove a point? But anyway, it's still a picture and it only tells me that Monk is incredibly overpowered if you are able to get this kind of result. @Sleigh
Then I must also add that your logic is flawed when you say: 'Because the Monk did that much damage -> Therefore the numbers being claimed by Esca are true. 370 DPS on a SMN seems about right and very good. A BLM doesn't even come close unless the RNG is upon him or her.

Why can't you just accept you aren't as good of a Black Mage as you think you are instead of attacking others?

[ViviAnimus]

Why is it that there always must be a certain person who loses all of the powers of deduction. Is it really so hard to calculate other possiblilites? I am not even a hardcore gamer but I consider myself to be more than capable. I just think it's suspicious that there is a DPS gap of 50-80 when the BLM's rotation doesn't even allow it (in this case). Why do I make this claim? Because as I have said before, I use my cooldowns effectively, use AM, continue casting and all of the other stuff that has been said before.
All I demand is one single video of a BLM who does the DPS that has been claimed here. How is that even attacking someone? I never used an insult, I just showed scepticism, and I still do!
So either people come with some concrete proof, or they should remain silent. As I said before. Personal anecdotes are no logical proof. Even pictures are neglectable. The only thing I don't do what does cause a DPS increase is using potions.
Another thing that might be a cause is the difference in gear.