BLM Buffs Inc!

[Ragecake]

A good rule with people in general:

This conversation is over.

[ViviAnimus]

So basically, I present you a decent case and all you did was talk nonsense and use ad hominems. To finish me off you post a nice picture which only displays your horrendous form of hypocricy. Now, is there some casual player that wish to discuss with me? Preferably with a controller, because logic.

[HitoYuudai]

so ragecake brings no arguments for his totally absurd imputations, but responses with "you're just bad" stuff over and over instead.
that's what I call a weak personality..

[Kenji1134]

Lets be frank here. With a name like "Ragecake", who made his "debut" in this thread and proceeded to do nothing more than shame, slander, and throw poop at any arguments FOR buffing BLM... did you expect any less?

[Altimis]

I don't like this Vivi Animus person. I believe he's a big part of the problem with the BLM community.



You know why you can never get it?

1. You play with a controller (which can bottleneck performance over using a mouse and keyboard).
2. You're a casual.
3. Can't accept those who are better.

It's players like you are the reason we're getting buffed for all the wrong reasons. BLMs should get a buff because the class needs it. Not because most BLM players are bad in this game.

I am sorry but what?

Your claim that Controller will bottleneck is not really true and never true IN THIS GAME

This is not FPS game so you need a precise control that you can't do with Controller

Some game have their own preference BUT NOT THIS GAME

You probably can't win Racing Car game using keyboard + mouse against Controller or using Controller against Wheel-pad

This is MMORPG game, Online Team play based game that required you to learn how to play your classes and jobs and then press skill/spell properly so you can do good

Controller vs Keyboard is NOTHING DIFFERENT here

Please don't so rush to concluded

[Xisin]

In all honesty Rag has a point of, if you present a dps number on this forum (as I have many times) you get called a liar, you try to post something on reddit thats against popular opinion but get betters results you get downvoted to oblivion. Anyway to go over a few things from my point of view and before I start this I'll at least gives a little detail on me.

- I have both smn and blm at 50 and play them both. Both have high allagan weapons. both however have fairly lower ilvls than the dps I normally play with. I'm i104 on both.

- I am a better black mage than I am a summoner both however produce good numbers

- I am in the Legacy fc on Sargatanas and have been double clearing turn 9 for about 3 weeks now (one with an alt, one with a main.)

- My static has a far above excellent drg and brd in it. So I can actually compare myself to these two jobs.

Vivi, has it ever occurred to you that you could simply be better at smn than blm? Serious question. I will agree that smn produces better single target dps than blm, smn also is very good at fights that have multiple spread out targets in them. SMN however doesn't blow blm out of the water. I will also agree that endgame currently lacks any aoe dps fights. I will never agree however that blm isn't capable of 350+ on t6, when they are very capable (even before having a HA weapon) The thing that angers me most about this forum is its attitude however, the mentality that if "I can't hit X amount of DPS then obviously no one else can" that very attitude holds you back. Much like in the real world people have different talents, and in video games (any genre) there are some players that are just better (not as people, just skilled) It's why league of legends has bronze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond and challenger ranks - so that people have more fun while playing. I want to also stress that I do not look down on people for being lower rated on whatever game - I dislike a self-defeating attitude, and will often talk to people that will bother listening.

If I had it my way blm would simply receive a small potency increase on fire, and that's it. I currently like the niche of turret dps and I also like the skill of casting and moving is what often sets blms apart, we don't need stacking firestarters, or thunderclouds (although losing a firestarter stack is annoying.) we don't need surecast to allow us to move and cast. perhaps, revert scathe back to it's 2.0 value as it's useful at times. I don't want the to class to be overbuffed so that SE then overnerfs it later on.

The mouse + keyboard thing vs controller thing though. I feel that more options brings more power and having a gaming keyboard + naga mouse gives a ton more options than a controller, sorry.

I'm all for the buff... just not an overbuff - if you want good numbers practice more, they are possible. A small potency buff on fire + scathe is about all we need. The worst thing about blm imo, is how it depends on a bard and scholar to get its best numbers.

[Uninstall]

Your claim that Controller will bottleneck is not really true and never true IN THIS GAME

I am pretty sure one of the most mentioned spell in this thread is Aetherial Manipulation, and using a controller will indeed hamper your usage of the said spell due to the lack of mouse over macros. Therefore, in a mid to high mobility fight, a controller wielding Black Mage will suffer more than a KB/M one.

[Altimis]

Guess I should not say "never"

but still, "Not really"

Talk about Controller vs Keyboard is like talk to the hand, its never have correct answer

In the end, its up to how you peoples like it more and familiar with it

For me, I like Controller feeling more than KB + M, I can do it faster than using KB + M for this game, I feel like I can control it like I moving my hands so that's it, nothing more nothing less, that work for me

For someone else, its others things, simple

[ks3v3n]

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pretty much nails it, thank you for your post =)

like ive posted at another thread, how to become an above average blm:
1) learn your rotations and skills
2) adapt that information to every single encounter
3) dont stop improving your performance

example:
i'm a maintank, but ive always played a magic class at other mmos, too. usually i clear new content with my tank and after some time i wanna play that content with my blm, too. even knowing all the mechanics then, its a whole new story to play the content as a blm and ive to learn it again. titan xm for example, the first kills as a blm i gimped around 200-220 dps just because i needed to get a feel when to run/stop for casting, etc. and now, after all those kills, ppl asking me how i can dish out that much dps.
i'm always wondering when playing as a blm or tanking, and there are other blms, what the hell are they doing (looking at my friend counting the numbers and telling me the dps they do).

[Cherub]

I don't see how using a controller wiill make AM use harder.
Not to mention you can just macro it so you don't even have to detarget/retarget.