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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
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    pretty much nails it, thank you for your post =)

    like ive posted at another thread, how to become an above average blm:
    1) learn your rotations and skills
    2) adapt that information to every single encounter
    3) dont stop improving your performance

    example:
    i'm a maintank, but ive always played a magic class at other mmos, too. usually i clear new content with my tank and after some time i wanna play that content with my blm, too. even knowing all the mechanics then, its a whole new story to play the content as a blm and ive to learn it again. titan xm for example, the first kills as a blm i gimped around 200-220 dps just because i needed to get a feel when to run/stop for casting, etc. and now, after all those kills, ppl asking me how i can dish out that much dps.
    i'm always wondering when playing as a blm or tanking, and there are other blms, what the hell are they doing (looking at my friend counting the numbers and telling me the dps they do).
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    Last edited by ks3v3n; 05-25-2014 at 05:40 PM.

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    Guess I should not say "never"

    but still, "Not really"

    Talk about Controller vs Keyboard is like talk to the hand, its never have correct answer

    In the end, its up to how you peoples like it more and familiar with it

    For me, I like Controller feeling more than KB + M, I can do it faster than using KB + M for this game, I feel like I can control it like I moving my hands so that's it, nothing more nothing less, that work for me

    For someone else, its others things, simple
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    I don't see how using a controller wiill make AM use harder.
    Not to mention you can just macro it so you don't even have to detarget/retarget.
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    I would like to hear how you can get 350dps on t6 (seriously, not taunting and saying you can't do it). I try to always have gcd on cd, even if that means i have to cast Scathe. I flare whenever i can hit 2 targets, i use AM to get back to the group, and I do as little movement as possible. And my dps is still llike 240. Is my single target rotation just completely wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween View Post
    I would like to hear how you can get 350dps on t6 (cut)
    I've been doing close to 360 on T6 the past week with an i97 (lv100 soldiery weapon).

    I personally never got targeted by the honey bee so this was a plus for sure , however over this what I personally do is

    a) Sprint in precast before chains
    b) I abuse the skill cast cheating , you can start moving when your cast bar is at around 80-85%
    c) AM always set in macro for long distances
    d) Double flares whenever you have 2+ targets (convert or ether if it's down)

    On fights like leviathan ex I'm generally always around 350 and this fight has some hard movements too , however the rules above apply for every fight, on T8 I'm going from 340 to 370 , it really depends on the procs/crits rng but usually our MNK is always far away from me even if I do a perfect fight.

    My personal feeling is that most of the BLM QQ'ing about the job are the ones that are unable to maximize their movements, however based on the direction they took with the new coil and based on the raw damage on the dummies compared to DRG/MNK /lolBRD's a little boost to the single target damage is something that I approve. A properly used BLM which si 100% skilled should be able to compete with a properly skilled MNK, I'd be more than happy to lower a bit the AOE damage (lolDungeonsFarm) for some more DPS on single target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God_Mode View Post
    I've been doing close to 360 on T6 the past week with an i97 (lv100 soldiery weapon).

    On fights like leviathan ex I'm generally always around 350, on T8 I'm going from 340 to 370
    No offense, but your parser is broken. Or your monks are near 500 dps if you are 370 on T8. I'm i100, i110 weapon and i'm max 340-350 on T8 in doing almost nothing (bomb pattern) with every buffs u can + staff hits during all fight.

    On ACT, our monks are around 400 max, SMN 375 max (and they are pretty good) On T8 we skip last phase (only 3 dreads) and we finish it in 9m20-30. So i need some explanations!
    Quote Originally Posted by ViviAnimus View Post
    Black Mages can do 370 DPS when standing still? I do 340 on a striking dummy with iLVL 99 gear. I know my class well. I use aetherial manipultion, I move as little as possible, I manage my procs well, use the few cooldowns we have effectively and such ...
    Thanks, this is reality.
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    Last edited by RockinFr; 05-30-2014 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinFr View Post
    No offense, but your parser is broken. Or your monks are near 500 dps if you are 370 on T8. I'm i100, i110 weapon and i'm max 340-350 on T8 in doing almost nothing (bomb pattern) with every buffs u can + staff hits during all fight.

    On ACT, our monks are around 400 max, SMN 375 max (and they are pretty good) On T8 we skip last phase (only 3 dreads) and we finish it in 9m20-30. So i need some explanations!
    this is reality.
    No offense but there's 3 people parsering in my team with different parser and I'm always the 2nd behind the MNK, I'll get em take a screen on the next reset and post it here as I'm playing from the ps4.

    About the reality quote from ViviAnimus you aren't taking in consideration that on dummies A) you don't have the FOE up and B) You don't have the DN's as multi target. In my party I'm ignoring most of the mecanics and entering in only two towers , but with sprint + AM + procs I don't even stop casting.

    On the DN's I'm able to cast 2-3 buffed Flares every time which is a fairly big boost in DPS, and yes those are all done in AF3 , if you don't know how to then you don't know how to maximize the BLM AOE.

    We don't use poison pots anymore but from what I know those aren't even counted by the parser.
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    These are the factors which contributed to the person having 350 DPS on T6

    - Only a 5 minute and 40 seconds battle
    - Bards played requiem for about 30-40% of the time
    - Contineous nuking of the boss (bards more tended to move when connected)
    - Only one bee spawned
    - Did not get the honey and as a result didn't get sucked in
    - Perhaps didn't have to move inside a branch to avoid getting sucked in.
    - Ignoring slimes and continue nuking the boss
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    Basically, you're only going to have good DPS when the RNG is mild on you and your team has enough DPS to skip phases.
    PS: AM is macrod and it's very easy for me to use it on controller. Also, I don't think you should use flare on two targets when your convert is not up. You're better off just continuing with the normal rotation.
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    Last edited by ViviAnimus; 05-25-2014 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViviAnimus View Post
    Also, I don't think you should use flare on two targets when your convert is not up. You're better off just continuing with the normal rotation.
    From my recent testing against 2 training dummies, it's a consistently higher number to do a ST rotation into Flare > Transpose > B1 > T1 > F3 than to ignore the second enemy, around 5% more total DPS. That might not even be an optimal post-Transpose rotation but it has the benefit of starting you at 100% MP.
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    Halloween we're on the same server, contact me I'll take you into titan or something and I'll help you out with movement casting. Getting the vines doesn't tank dps that hard, the only requiem I get is when you normally would get a requiem (beginning of the fight and after slimes die) You can cast inside the briars but not AM out of them and the loS method isnt a requirement. Vivi your attitude is simply arrogance because you refuse to even acknowledge anything other than your own opinion. Our fights are quick though you are correct in that assumption. We don't ignore the slimes either, sorry. We don't need to make the job easier to play (that is what you are asking for) we just need some single target help.
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