BLM Buffs Inc!

[Halloween]

^ i think that one went over your head, vivi

[ViviAnimus]

Yes, yes. But let us not digress and please send some concrete proof which confirms the possibilty of the claims made in this thread (directed to those who were up for it).

[Halloween]

give them time. It's not easy to line everything up perfectly in photoshop

[blackermage]

Took a while, had to find the date of my kill and edit out names, etc. etc,.
http://imgur.com/SV80XmK,uBfJHMw#0
First page is the clear, Second page shows that I didn't flare at the end.
Not sure how to show foes, we had two bard it was up 30-40% of the time I believe.

I had the weathered laevaetinn (sp?) at the time, along with weathered sold legs (don't ask, I'm retarded), along with pentamelded hat and chest, sold ring, HA feet.

[Sleigh]

Took a while, had to find the date of my kill and edit out names, etc. etc,.
http://imgur.com/SV80XmK,uBfJHMw#0
First page is the clear, Second page shows that I didn't flare at the end.
Not sure how to show foes, we had two bard it was up 30-40% of the time I believe.

I had the weathered laevaetinn (sp?) at the time, along with weathered sold legs (don't ask, I'm retarded), along with pentamelded hat and chest, sold ring, HA feet.

I noticed your damage taken is the highest in the group. Do you primarily let everyone break your tethers while you stand still? There's nothing wrong with that considering your comp, just curious if you primarily just pop Manaward and go about your business whenever you can.

[blackermage]

I noticed your damage taken is the highest in the group. Do you primarily let everyone break your tethers while you stand still? There's nothing wrong with that considering your comp, just curious if you primarily just pop Manaward and go about your business whenever you can.

Our summoner is actually really close, 250.24 + 90.76 on his Garuda. Our Bards are very undergeared (we basically brought in two alts for that week). But to answer your question, yes. I used to run as soon as I see chains no matter what. However, the briar method makes you wait for every even chain (to see who gets the mark), and I noticed that my bards will break the chain pretty quickly. On every odd chain I will start walking after I finish my cast, maybe one extra (earlier if I get a proc of course).

[ViviAnimus]

Alright! I can definitely agree with that!
@ Blacker Mage, that is turn 6 and I would argue with a level 100 weapon that is possible. It's very impressive regardless. But might I ask though. What is the tactic being used? Do you guys run to the branches or just through the boss? I see the time and seems like you wrecked it too. You probably skipped the second bee as well. What happens in my group is that usually we have to wait for the honey (second and bee) to spawn and that's when my dps plummets of course. But still, it must have been pretty lucky on you. On a static target, I would say I get about 340-360 DPS. How you get 350 when moving by thorns, move away from getting sucked in, getting sucked in when getting the honey ... How it is even possible so then sustain 350 DPS seems beyond me. Well, I guess when you have it 30-40% up out of 6 minutes that that is a HUGE DPS increase.
Regardless, I must say that I am pretty impressed. I will record a kill next week and if you want, you can have a look and perhaps give some advice. I am definitely prepared to become better.

[blackermage]

What is the tactic being used?

We run to briars. Since we started learning it that way we didn't bother to change it. We also burn boss at the end instead of feeding the slug.
For this strategy, while you're running it's best if you have something to insta cast. Also, I make sure I run into the edge of the briar, so when Rafflessia is done using the suck I just sidestep a little bit and AM back to the party.

You probably skipped the second bee as well.

Yes, always one bee. IIRC, if you push hard after the first blight you'll be fine with even decent gear.

What happens in my group is that usually we have to wait for the honey (second and bee) to spawn and that's when my dps plummets of course.

Yeah if you have to hold DPS to not trigger leafstorm, RIP your dps.

How you get 350 when moving by thorns, move away from getting sucked in, getting sucked in when getting the honey ... How it is even possible so then sustain 350 DPS seems beyond me.

Thorns with a very mobile group let's you get away with not moving too much. At the very worse it just forces a swiftcast.
Honey is RNG, and I was lucky I didn't get targeted. Although if you're pushing 1 bee it's only 1/8(?*) chance.
Anytime a briar is spawned underneath, if you have swiftcast (and even better w/convert) it is actually a dps increase as you can flare two targets easily.

Well, I guess when you have it 30-40% up out of 6 minutes that that is a HUGE DPS increase.

It's a good chunk of damage, and I always tell my bards when my RS is up, since when stacked with voice it gives even more damage.


Edit: Actually I think it might be 1/4, as I don't recall it ever being on healers/tanks. Still, pretty good odds ^_^

[ViviAnimus]

Well, I guess this is a case of having a lot of factors in your benefit. It's impressive DPS regardless. But let us be honest, BLM is pretty straight forward. That is why I am always sceptical whenever someone claims to have such high DPS because from my perspective, I can never get it. Whenever I get thorns, I need to run away (sometimes pretty far), indeed the plummeting of my DPS because of not burning through. We don't burn the boss in the end as well. Usually I DPS the boss a bit and then get ready to burn the Slug who has eaten the Slimes. All of it is pretty much fatal to me. Because I do believe that Black Mages suffer the most from not doing anything. We only have Flare to basically burst our DPS a bit and without convert it's so useless.
Nice tip on the briars though. I usually stand in the middle because we always thought you would get sucks in if you don't. Cheers, mate. Quick question. Would you prefer spell speed or det?

[Mana_Mako]

I totally agree they should add these to update blm, also same goes for Thundercloud aswell since it wouldnt really be overpowered since the it has very low percentage of it happening. If they were to make Firestarter/Thundercloud to stack to 3 they would have to increase the time limit to use it before you can't anymore, 30 seconds would be good time limit, enough time to get all 3 stacks it would balance out moving around by great deal along with surecast idea you have they could implement into the game.

It would also be good idea if they updated Apoctastasis, keep the cooldown the same but change the duration to 20 seconds like manaward and be able to use it on self along with changing the 30% resistance to just fire, ice and lightning to all elements, would be used alot more and be needed raids, some of you may think this would be overpowered but it wouldn't be, playing as blm since the game came out I have hardly used this skill at all along with surecast.