Zodiak Weapons : Are you casual content or hardcore content?

[Alise]

This is not a complain thread, please complain elsewhere. I just want a discuss whether this is hardcore content, casual content, or something along the line which meant as fail experiment?


If it is hardcore content, then I says that the weapon will need to be strongest or equivalent at the final form. (Most of my hardcore friends are already won T8, and on proceed to T9, they will not care this content if it is anything less than lv 115)

If it is casual content, then I says that the weapon should consume less time to obtain. Because how many casual players do you know that willingly to get Atimus and not give up mid way? All of my casual friends already give up on this, except a few. And Only hardcore friends that are near Atimus or already got Atimus, but as I said before that they plan to throw this away if it doesn't give better stat than Allagan weapon at the end.

So currently imo, this content is failing to be either good content that casual or hardcore players would be happy about.

Hardcore players would expect this to be strongest. or they will not bother.
Casual players would expect the content to consume less time. or they will not bother.
->>> SE only end up getting complained from both side.

[Zaels]

Here is how I see it.

Zodiac weapon path - Skill Level: Low, Time Level: High
Leviathan EX weapon path - Skill Level: Moderate, Time Level: Moderate
Second Coil weapons path - Skill Level: High, Time Level: Low

If you don't want to take a skill-based path or spend a considerable amount of time on it, you don't need an i100 weapon.

[SarcasmMisser]

Here is how I see it.

Zodiac weapon path - Skill Level: Low, Time Level: High
Leviathan EX weapon path - Skill Level: Moderate, Time Level: Moderate
Second Coil weapons path - Skill Level: High, Time Level: Low

If you don't want to take a skill-based path or spend a considerable amount of time on it, you don't need an i100 weapon.

Show me the t9 clearing group that hasn't put countless hours in coil progression.

[Crimson-Falcon]

Show me the t9 clearing group that hasn't put countless hours in coil progression.

Skill Level: High/Mastery

all you need is T9 clear to get i115 weapon

while atma & animus questline require weeks to complete

[Nero]

Skill Level: High/Mastery

all you need is T9 clear to get i115 weapon

while atma & animus questline require weeks to complete

Next Stage after Animus will be probably 115 which comes in 2.28 iirc?!, so idk seems quite equal to High Allagan ( Stats are unknown so leave that out ). Also, you have to get to T9 first, which technically will take longer for most groups than getting Animus and then the Weapon you want have to actually drop.

Was somewhere in a strat 9 Vid.. don't remember where it is from, but i would guess Famitsu. May someone can confirm. From left to right;

Relic | Allagan | Weathered | Primal

[Kitfox]

Show me the t9 clearing group that hasn't put countless hours in coil progression.

He implies that Coil is not a grindfest, rather it's a skill check. Althought it does take practice, there's no forced grind like 13500 myth for books. The upgrade items are also 100% drops so there's no RNG involved.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

He implies that Coil is not a grindfest, rather it's a skill check. Althought it does take practice, there's no forced grind like 13500 myth for books. The upgrade items are also 100% drops so there's no RNG involved.

100% drops so no RNG involved eh? Man someone should lock and close this thread. LOL

[Felis]

He implies that Coil is not a grindfest, rather it's a skill check. Althought it does take practice, there's no forced grind like 13500 myth for books. The upgrade items are also 100% drops so there's no RNG involved.

That means every weapon drop at once, with no RNG involved in the loot? Sure, 1 drop is guaranteed, but it is not guaranteed that it is also the right drop.

[Kitfox]

That means every weapon drop at once, with no RNG involved in the loot? Sure, 1 drop is guaranteed, but it is not guaranteed that it is also the right drop.

No, that means the upgrade items for soldiery weapons are 100%, that are on par, or better after T8, with tidal wave and animus.

[Zaels]

That means every weapon drop at once, with no RNG involved in the loot? Sure, 1 drop is guaranteed, but it is not guaranteed that it is also the right drop.

T9 weapons are not the only weapons you get by farming coil. The weathered weapons and the item used to upgrade them are from the second coil too. The upgrade items and the unidentified allagan tomestones are what he's talking about.