End the Debate? Hardcore and Regular Servers

[SionDurant]

SE,

If you feel the need to be torn between one opinion or the other, why not just create Hardcore servers with specific rewards (Cosmetics, titles, mounts etc) to people who put their nose to the grind in the way that 60 HR a week gamers do.

Make regular servers for casuals. If you want to have those specific individuals who complained (which to be honest I saw few of in comparison to the complaints right now which alone should say something) they will go to the Hardcore servers, with their Hardcore friends.

Also put flags on Coil Items / Relics etc from Regular servers to make them inert paper weights on Hardcore Servers.

This is a very simple solution that even Free Shard managers utilize.

This would allow you to say to Hardcore Players that eventually wine about content being too hard or grindy:

Okay go to a Regular server, 18 dollars please.

And to the Casuals that complain/wine about no challenges

Okay go to a Hardcore server, 18 dollars please.

End of debate forever.

[snakey77]

I'm sorry but could you imagine the amount of hardcore elitist egos running around 1 server wow that would be just scary

[Seif]

We already have this.

In case you're not familiar with MMOs:

New content is hardcore
old is casual

there. No need for server separations. Go get those world firsts and find a fc to gloat about it.

[SionDurant]

We already have this.

In case you're not familiar with MMOs:

New content is hardcore
old is casual

there. No need for server separations. Go get those world firsts and find a fc to gloat about it.

Casuals tend to get upset from being barred from content.

Hardcores tend to get upset seeing Casuals in their content.

This means the two types of players cannot get along and shouldn't be forced to be in eachother's midst, ergo, you separate them. But I actually find this to be more of a fun social experiment then anything.

You see, I am betting top dollar in the face of the choice, the "Hardcore" gamer will put his behind on the Regular server, and he'll stop coming to the forums out of shame. Whereas those who are truly out for a challenge will be content in their challenging land with challenger friends.

[ReplicaX]

You see, I am betting top dollar in the face of the choice, the "Hardcore" gamer will put his behind on the Regular server, and he'll stop coming to the forums out of shame. Whereas those who are truly out for a challenge will be content in their challenging land with challenger friends.

I can see the media lining up to throw SE to the sharks and the reputation of the game flushed down the toilet now.

What debate? It's not going to happen.

I think you should listen, after all:

I am a developer who works very hard, this leaves me with a grand total of 20 Hours max gaming time.

[Tiggy]

I think you should listen, after all:
Quote Originally Posted by SionDurant View Post
I am a developer who works very hard, this leaves me with a grand total of 20 Hours max gaming time.

Ok...and? Seriously why would you think this is going to happen? A healthy server requires a mix of both casual and hardcore players. The game appears to require it for the economy to work. It's just not going to happen.

[Issac]

Ok...and? Seriously why would you think this is going to happen? A healthy server requires a mix of both casual and hardcore players. The game appears to require it for the economy to work. It's just not going to happen.

I think he was being facetious.

[ReplicaX]

Ok...and? Seriously why would you think this is going to happen? A healthy server requires a mix of both casual and hardcore players. The game appears to require it for the economy to work. It's just not going to happen.

It was sarcasm Tiggy....

[Arkghyom]

Casuals tend to get upset from being barred from content.

Hardcores tend to get upset seeing Casuals in their content.

This means the two types of players cannot get along and shouldn't be forced to be in eachother's midst, ergo, you separate them. But I actually find this to be more of a fun social experiment then anything.

You see, I am betting top dollar in the face of the choice, the "Hardcore" gamer will put his behind on the Regular server, and he'll stop coming to the forums out of shame. Whereas those who are truly out for a challenge will be content in their challenging land with challenger friends.

AFAIK, They're human beings. Time to enhance that rusty skill called "Human Relationships."

[Ryans]

Casuals tend to get upset from being barred from content.

Hardcores tend to get upset seeing Casuals in their content.

This means the two types of players cannot get along and shouldn't be forced to be in eachother's midst, ergo, you separate them. But I actually find this to be more of a fun social experiment then anything.

You see, I am betting top dollar in the face of the choice, the "Hardcore" gamer will put his behind on the Regular server, and he'll stop coming to the forums out of shame. Whereas those who are truly out for a challenge will be content in their challenging land with challenger friends.

The two types of players aren't forced to play together. The actual, true to the definition, hardcore players don't play with random players. "Hardcore" players who join PF groups are just people who have cleared the content before and would prefer to continue doing so without having to back-track in their progress. Unfortunately, a lot of the time these people feel that every random person should be at the same level of experience as themselves and they haven't realized that every group has a different dynamic than all the previous groups they've been in.

It's not really elitism, it's just a little bit of self-centeredness and arrogance in their thinking that everyone is playing under the same conditions as themselves.