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    I used to think posts like "people will complain about anything" were hyperbole.

    Now i know their not.

    Thanks for clearing that up for me OP.

    Edit: Post 100 and not one of them useful!
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    Last edited by Commat; 07-14-2011 at 10:16 PM.
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    Wow, you guys really argue about anything.
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    this thread i no no approve. delete pls. kkthxbb
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    Seriously people, OP stated a thread that he thinks Raise at Lvl 14 is early, and he recommended his opinion 25+ is better. I feel that way too and I agree with OP. What about these all hate posts, like stfu, sh*ts, etc. Just because of this opinion ? So much insults.for on-game opinion ? What is wrong with this forum, I ask myself and I ask you. I know you all like easy modes, but there are people who dont. And if these people state their opinion here, all is wrong. Meh.
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    Last edited by Synthesis; 07-14-2011 at 10:21 PM. Reason: call swaped for state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    Seriously people, OP stated a thread that he thinks Raise at Lvl 14 is early, and he recommended his opinion 25+ is better. I feel that way too and I agree with OP. What about these all hate posts, like stfu, sh*ts, etc. Just because of this opinion ? So much insults.for on-game opinion ? What is wrong with this forum, I ask myself and I ask you. I know you all like easy modes, but there are people who dont. And if these call their opinion here, all is wrong by you. Meh.
    If either of you could explain very clearly how this makes things easier than simply hitting return and running from an aether camp, I don't think anyone would have a problem. He's not replying to anyone's reasoning other than offering vague analogies which have nothing to do with the subject. I also ask myself what is wrong with some on this forum, though probably for different reasons to you xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiferr View Post
    If either of you could explain very clearly how this makes things easier than simply hitting return and running from an aether camp, I don't think anyone would have a problem.
    Well, its pretty much same at these low ranks. Return / Raise :-) so its not really big deal.
    What I meant is the joy that you earned raise skill. Like cool finally raise lvl @ 26. Now you hit one leve run from lvl 1 .) and ding you have got this. I think this was the only thing -> An Earn. Which would benefit you later anyway if you continue play after R14 Hh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    Well, its pretty much same at these low ranks. Return / Raise :-) so its not really big deal.
    What I meant is the joy that you earned raise skill. Like cool finally raise lvl @ 26. Now you hit one leve run from lvl 1 .) and ding you have got this. I think this was the only thing -> An Earn. Which would benefit you later anyway if you continue play after R14 Hh
    If I can understand what you are saying correctly then I do sort of agree with you, in that you do hit level 14 too quickly, and would be getting raise very quickly in the game. Personally, though, I don't think that's an issue with raise being too low, but rather the leveling curve is not right. For me, I would like to see a steady increase in the amount of exp needed, to the point that at rank 10 it is more beneficial for you to team up with others to start ranking up. Then, bam, you hit 14 and have raise - perfect, because now you've been partying for a few levels and the spell is necessary.
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    too low? No!

    Recast timers are plain Bullcrap imo, wth happens in a complete party wipe with only 1-2 healers?
    it will take...what? 10+ min to raise everyone? unless melee's have the spell aswell.

    Dont even think this lil problem wont show up during the dungeons, atleast from looking at that Dungeon video.

    I rather wish they added reraise (atleast for mages) and shorten the recast time on the raise spells by 1min or so.
    AoE Raise-ga might be abit over the top thou. (thou i wouldnt complain having it)
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    Last edited by Laughlyn; 07-14-2011 at 10:25 PM.

    I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...

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    I'm sure they have a valid reason as to why its such a low level. They're probably going to make the game more dangerous once its in a fixed condition. IMO
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    I'm not a troll I'm just the voice of truth :P

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    Not sure if this has been mentioned but having raise at 14 gives accessability for lower levels to do dungeons. If they hadn't lowered it then as it stands if there is a party of people with only level 30ish jobs in the dungeon, if a member died that member would have no way of continuing, pretty much meaning the party would be screwed.

    We can close this thread now, ok thanks.
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