Raise/Ressurect too low

[Eekiki]

In this thread: people who stopped reading at the part where it said Raise would be lowered to R14 and came here to rage.

[Arcell]

It's funny how people don't avoid dying for the sake of not dying. Dying sucks, it should be seen in most cases as a direct result of some kind of a failure. You shouldn't need to be slapped on the wrist or punched in the crotch after dying too. SP/XP penalties are just that, a punch in the crotch while you're down. You should feel bad when you die, you clearly screwed up or weren't good enough to do whatever it is you were doing. Go get better. Whatever happened to people wanting to play well for the sake of actually playing well?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

It's funny how people don't avoid dying for the sake of not dying. Dying sucks, it should be seen in most cases as a direct result of some kind of a failure. You shouldn't need to be slapped on the wrist or punched in the crotch after dying too. SP/XP penalties are just that, a punch in the crotch while you're down. You should feel bad when you die, you clearly screwed up or weren't good enough to do whatever it is you were doing. Go get better. Whatever happened to people wanting to play well for the sake of actually playing well?

+100 this post. this is pretty much what I just said.

I avoided death for sake of death XD

[Demacia]

I come from FFXI and I thought lv25 was a perfect level for raise, but still, you guys are just ASKING for reasons to complain. Lv14 is fine. Lv38 was ridiculous but seriously it's just a revive spell it's not like they're getting a movement speed buff or something significant.

[lenn1]

Why do you guys think time spent = skill? You want us to spend a few days instead of a few hours to get raise, how does that make the game harder? everyone will have raise regardless.

[Stephen]

Gotta say I totally agree with the OP, this is an RPG and an MMO at that... it shouldn't be 1-50 in 3 days of grinding and raise at 14?! 14 can be achieved in an hour... Tailoring your game to suit all is great, but this game is already easy/casual enough for the gamers who have only 30 mins a day to play.

SE might aswell just start us all off at rank 50 with all abilities with the way this is going....

The majority of MMO players (that I speak with) like to feel like they've earned something not have it handed to them on a plate. The very essense of an RPG/MMO is the achievements and earning of skills, growing stronger (in whatever class or craft etc) and completing missions etc etc... If this is all quickly easily achieved and there isn't any challenge then what's the point!? So... yeah I understand what I think the OP is getting at, it's not just this one spell being too low he/she is complaing about it's the entire game being made easier and easier ensuring no sense of achievement or accomplishment is felt.

Final Fantasy XI took it to the extreme and made things very hard to achieve and now XIV is doing the same but in the opposite direction... There has to be a middle ground, I'm beginning to believe that complaining in forums about gripes is all it takes for SE to change the game in ways to make it even more easy.

I have found RPGs that have taken longer to finish the main story. Achieving a high enough rank to complete the main story in an MMO shouldn't be achievable in a few days. Those of you who played FFXI will know exaclty what I mean.
(For the record I'm NOT one of those people who want another FFXI clone, FFXI has been used solely as a reference)

This game is way to easy/quick to complete FACT, don't make things even more easily achievable.

[TirionCrey]

Gotta say I totally agree with the OP, this is an RPG and an MMO at that... it shouldn't be 1-50 in 3 days of grinding and raise at 14?! 14 can be achieved in an hour... Tailoring your game to suit all is great, but this game is already easy/casual enough for the gamers who have only 30 mins a day to play.

SE might aswell just start us all off at rank 50 with all abilities with the way this is going....

The majority of MMO players (that I speak with) like to feel like they've earned something not have it handed to them on a plate. The very essense of an RPG/MMO is the achievements and earning of skills, growing stronger (in whatever class or craft etc) and completing missions etc etc... If this is all quickly easily achieved and there isn't any challenge then what's the point!? So... yeah I understand what I think the OP is getting at, it's not just this one spell being too low he/she is complaing about it's the entire game being made easier and easier ensuring no sense of achievement or accomplishment is felt.

Final Fantasy XI took it to the extreme and made things very hard to achieve and now XIV is doing the same but in the opposite direction... There has to be a middle ground, I'm beginning to believe that complaining in forums about gripes is all it takes for SE to change the game in ways to make it even more easy.

I have found RPGs that have taken longer to finish the main story. Achieving a high enough rank to complete the main story in an MMO shouldn't be achievable in a few days. Those of you who played FFXI will know exaclty what I mean.
(For the record I'm NOT one of those people who want another FFXI clone, FFXI has been used solely as a reference)

This game is way to easy/quick to complete FACT, don't make things even more easily achievable.

Getting a stupid ability that allows you to raise other people is not "earning something" or having "worked for something"...

This would imply that I should feel accomplished for getting Provoke 2 as a Tank but oh...what a surprise...getting Provoke 2 didn't even get me for a second there...its a 08/15 ability that is so "normal", that there is no reason for me to feel "accomplished" about it...

Add CONTENT that takes work/skill to complete, then we can talk about accomplishments, not ranking a stupid class to a stupid rank...cause that's what everyone does anyway...so if you feel like you "accomplished" something by merely ranking a class, you must be mroe casual than you like to admit...cause I don't look at ranks as an "accomplishment" even in the slightest...as a Battle Class its about the stuff I killed, as a crafter its about the stuff I HQed, as a gatherer its about the rare items I can get...its NEVER about me being 50...cause everyone hits 50 at some point...

[PrettyPrincess]

You are out numbered and your nit picking is getting rather obnoxious.

This ^

my late reply is late

[odette]

maybe ffxi fans are real killer of FFXIV
they want obsolet things in ffxi on ffxiv, what are you thinking?
maybe you hare hardocore, has no life, you think spend time in ridicuolous thing are skill player???
rank lvl 14 for raise is good, people that wanna raise rank 25 back to play ffxi

[Ilean]

maybe ffxi fans are real killer of FFXIV
they want obsolet things in ffxi on ffxiv, what are you thinking?
maybe you hare hardocore, has no life, you think spend time in ridicuolous thing are skill player???
rank lvl 14 for raise is good, people that wanna raise rank 25 back to play ffxi

^ This.

So glad that Yoshida represent us complete human beings and not basement dwelling no lifers.