Raise/Ressurect too low

[DoubleEcho]

You know, I think of it this way. In Final Fantasy IV, Rosa was a WHM and started with Life1. Seems fair to me that a R14 CON would get a Raise spell when you factor in that they'll still have Weakness. You could compare Life2 to Rebirth since you didn't get Life2 until later on (Level 40ish in FFIV?) and it healed you with full HP.

[KaiKatzchen]

Actually now that I think about it. FFVII has the highest level requirement for Raise, and its not really a requirement. You just can't get it until your around level 30 or 40 because its so far down in the storyline before stores can sell it to you.

Exactly... raise has always been something you tend to get near the start of the game, only a few had it further down the line.

[SakuraHadoken]

Lol having to get scrolls would suck, especially for the people that never had all their spells in ffxi anyways. Getting them from leveling up is much more efficient.

[Andrien]

news flash! phoenix down works at any level :P

[Misha]

LoL @ Ichi's overbearing insecurity >.<

Anyways Agreed with Kaikatzchen and NoctisUmbra... not to mention it's clear they know better than you... complaining about Raise being accessible by the first instance or getting "screwed" outta our bonus xp from fatigue going away. These are the players that they aren't making the game for. Whine about everything and not looking at all the great stuff coming xD Next there will be complaining that the higher up raises are exclusive to conj lmao ...

And for those saying 14 is too easy to get, why are you complaining about raise being at 14 rather than it taking only a hour or two to get there and the sp should be modified instead?! *facepalm* Be more constructive and remember that balance is a huge part of mmo's and what this game NEEDS. Anyways I'm out of this "argument", you people are a blight on the FF community and why it's so horrid.

End Note: Raise animation included... that is all >.>

[Jynx]

For any Developer unfortunate enough to read this thread: Please ignore the people crying about the lower level raise, you can't make everyone happy and these are the few who you will NEVER make happy.

[TirionCrey]

I mean, there's no reason for raise @ 14. What's everyones rush?? You get raise, weakened... you HP, weakened!! Time to run back to the battle spot and your fine. Dungeons have gates to HP to but WTF will r.14 player going to do there if not to die and HP back, run back in time, your weakness is gone.

That's giving Con just less usability then ever. I know not many people enjoy the class and prefer to stab and slash but for players who put their all into Con all the way to r.50 or so, it's too early and too low a rank to give access to raise. So if you're a Marauder @ r.30, most likely you'll have raise already, so make it r.25 because at 20-30, WTF you going and what you fighting??

I can give many reasons why but it'll still be my opinion and it shortens the lifespan of the game, takes away the challenge and caters to casuals too much. I mean veterans like me seem to be sceptic on what else will "they" do to this game just bring in more non-RPG players, who will later just say, "Meh, this games too boring", and never come back.

It's not just easier now from rank 1-10 and so on, "it's so easy, a caveman can do it!" Beware SE, Geico's watching you!

I fail to see what you're trying to say <.<
Either its your poor sentence building skills, or it's just the thing that you don't know how to actually express what you think properly...

The one thing I can tell for sure is, you are blind to the fact that CON is getting Raise 2 and Rebirth which gives them a usability in the game they never had and now it actually makes sense to play as a CON50 instead of a THM50.

[Griss]

Heh Guess some people are forgetting that they have been talking about adding in a "Introductory" Raid at about the rank where r1 is getting placed.

[Corrderio]

I'll just leave this here for the people complaining

[Velhart]

If you guys aren't even going to try to understand the concerns of the people posting here then stop replying. I understand completely but i feel that the lowering of the level for raise is not as much of an 'easy' change as the death penalty the 15min return recast and the fact that the good raise now is going to be con only which is going to be even more exclusive come job implementation. the 'hard' changes here outweigh the 'easy' changes so i wouldn't be too concerned.

STFU if you have nothing productive to add about how stupid we are for wanting the game to be challenging or arguing the bullshit semantics of what is hard and what isn't. You know what is hard? whatever the hell is harder for us that's what is hard for us that's what's a challenge if your just gonna flame you're no better then what you imagine us to be which btw you are oh so wrong.

self-serviette garbage.

I 100% understand what is going on here. People are whining because they "worked hard" to get 38 to get Raise, and now it is being lowered to 14, there is your complaint. Like Jenn said, why do the people who already have Raise really care the level got lowered? Like I said in my previous post, you knew changes were coming, yet you complain hard work has gone to waste. What exactly has been wasted? You have a lv.38+ character, who will now have Raise 2. What is the problem?

In regards to making the game easier. What exactly is making this easier? Guildleves are not the central form of party EXP, you will be grinding in areas further away from the crystal more than likely, it is convenient to have a Raise so you don't have to go through the hassle of running all the way back with potential aggro mobs by yourself. Call it challenging if you want, I call it inconvenience, and Raise helps take away that inconvenience.

There is no reason to complain about a lv.14 Raise. You complain, SE gives you what you want, then you complain some more. How is SE suppose to make any progression in this game when people make complaints, then they give you what you want, then complain some more. Your reasoning for not liking this isn't exactly constructive criticism and telling us to "STFU" because you don't like what we have to say doesn't really do much, we are also entitled to our opinions, and our opinions say that we do not agree with you.