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  1. #171
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    Draken's Avatar
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    Draken Titan
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Whats with people. Its SE's game. Its their creative vision. People these days feel so entitled to get everything they ask for. I miss the days when you picked up a game. It was what it was and you either liked it or moved on. Now all people do is complain and ask for changes like their opinion matters at all. News Flash, It doesn't. If you don't like the game, move on, but stop trying to make it into your vision and let SE roll with their own.
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  2. #172
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draken View Post
    Its SE's game. Its their creative vision. People these days feel so entitled to get everything they ask for.
    Keep in mind. It is Square Enix's 'creative vision', but they are still a business, and a business is subject to the whims of those who pay for it. Thus, as it's Square's 'creative vision', it's our right as customers not to buy / pay for the game / play the game. This person is an upset customer who is leaving the game, and I respect his decision for it, just as I respect Square Enix's 'creative vision.'

    I agree 100% with the original poster. Atma/Animus is just too boring for me right now. Thankfully, my static gave me our first unidentified tomestone - I'll have an i100 weapon next week, and I'll be able to make i110 shortly after hopefully

    Quote Originally Posted by Draken View Post
    I miss the days when you picked up a game. It was what it was and you either liked it or moved on. Now all people do is complain and ask for changes like their opinion matters at all. News Flash, It doesn't. If you don't like the game, move on, but stop trying to make it into your vision and let SE roll with their own.
    These still exist. It's called single player/offline games. This is an online, MMORPG, constantly evolving at the whims of the producers and player base. :P Though, back in our day (Heh, we're old.), we'd also be able to trade our damn games if we were disatisfied with them and get something better. Nowadays most games are DRM/some kind of rediculous 20-digit code to make sure I'm not pirating it.
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  3. #173
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    skho01's Avatar
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by elkhorn View Post
    And another casual player bites the dust.lol
    I'm sorry, but you sir is one condescending elitist. If you think grinding in poorly/lazily designed low level fates for a high level quest is hardcore and 1337, then you must be as bad as these fates are designed for.
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  4. #174
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    Rosi Posi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    I don't have the brain cells to expend to read every post in this thread thus far,
    but I feel the bigger picture here is that you're crying and quitting over content designed for casuals.
    (Incoming s---storm from casuals who don't have Atma yet!)....

    snip...... but as it's already been pointed out - the real "hardcore" players are throwing themselves at Turn 9 for 16 hours a day. Not sitting in level 5 camps hoping to get a weapon that is on par with the 2nd best weapon available (Tidal Wave). If you consider yourself hardcore, Animus should be your back burner pet project. It does not require skill. It does not require anything but time and commitment.....snip.....
    Good theory...thing is "hardcores" (or "no lifers" as we like to call them) may have 16 hours a day to spend playing a game (no job? no family? no college?....hmm) so if as you're saying Animus is for casuals (who DO have jobs, families, and other committments) it's not likely that that many of them will ever get it...they don't have the time to play GAMES, they're busy doing real life stuff.

    So yeah...Animus is for hardcores, those who have 16 HOURS!!!!!!! to PLAY a game.
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  5. #175
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    jlewiss's Avatar
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    Jordan Lewis
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Give your head a shake, I can think of no mmo where gear obtaining isn't based on RNG. If there is a game where you can kill a boss then choose what drops you want from it then please make me aware of it.
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  6. #176
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    So what do the words "then and only then would I come back" mean, that I still subscribe to the game or will still subscribe to the game? Is it just me or are you reading what you want to read and not actually reading the words that are written in Black and White?
    We really want to miss you, but we can't, you're still here! Reminds me of a song in Pirates of Pensanse...
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    The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

  7. #177
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    Hakaze Kusaribe
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    If all of FFXIV ARR was nothing but extremely time consuming RNG with low odds, then I'd have a problem. But if its only ATMA, why not let those who enjoy that have at it.

    Fact - the game does NOT ride on ATMA.

    So what if you don't get the atma stuff, there is plenty else to do. It is like give these people rope, and they hang themselves on it.
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  8. #178
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    that provided no skill development or just reward
    3000 fate achievement, gc seals coming out of my ears.

    Worth it.
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  9. #179
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    If only solutions were that simple. I doubt it is as simple as changing one number in code.

    What if they don't even want to change the drop rate? Add other options to the quest or go with a different approach entirely? Unless you are part of the Dev team or they actually share the information you are simply assuming.
    Why would it need to be complicated? What is the issue with the Atma Quest? The low drop rate right? Ok so that's the problem fix it. They don't need to add new ways to obtain Atma. The only thing wrong is the drop rate, other than that the quest is fine. I'm sure it isn't to difficult to change the drop rate, Didn't they up the drop rate in 2.1 for some items? Yes it will take a bit more work for Atma, But nothing that can't be done in a few days.

    Also I'm pretty sure that SE can keep track of how many players have a Atma weapon. I really can't see them doing anything to this quest other than increasing the drop rate. The Atma quest shouldn't take more than about 600 fates ( to some that might be to much). At the same time people should have to do some kind of grind. But it shouldn't take 40hrs+ to get done. The Atma Weapon is just a cosmetic change and opens the next part of the real grind. As for Animus I believe it is fine, But when you have to do 40hrs+ grind for a cosmetic change it kinda takes the fun out of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    3000 fate achievement, gc seals coming out of my ears.

    Worth it.
    Yup got my 3k Achievement, So many GC seals that I won't be needing to buy Ventures for months hell maybe even a year.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-26-2014 at 10:22 AM.

  10. #180
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    Luciano_Bozzelli's Avatar
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    Luciano Bozzelli
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    If you read his post you would know he is not a Casual but a Hard Core player and everything he stated is true.
    But nothing he stated is new....
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