Time to move on since Square Enix does not listen to its Constituents

[Mirili]

See ya next patch.

[Lafiele]

Self-centered beings who think their departure from the game needs to be announced in the forums and that they think they will have any significance in the greater scheme of the game. To answer your grinding issues, yes there is grind but it's much better than many many many other games I've played. If you can see the light at the end of the path, then it's really not too bad. There are MODERN games that you may be grinding for MONTHS and maybe even YEARS and depending on who you are, you may still be no where near your goal. Right now animus is obtainable in a matter of weeks and you're already going boo hoo...

Goodbye and you shall not be missed.

[Rosy]

Self-centered beings...snip.... you're already going boo hoo...

Goodbye and you shall not be missed.

You, my dear, need to look at the bigger picture. He/she WILL be missed, maybe not by you, but then who are you? just an insignificant person that nobody cares if they see/hear from ever again He/she is not the only one leaving the game, and one thing game devs don't like is a diminishing player base. Scattered around these 100s of posts about atmas are many folks who are leaving. There are many new games out there to go to. There may even be some who were thinking about leaving, and these "I'm leaving" posts have just gently nudged them over the edge to do just that.

Right now animus MAY be obtainable in a matter of weeks for SOME people who have had a lot of luck. Right now though, there is a massive amount of people who have spent hours and hours and still don't have their drops. People keep throwing out the "casual" insult about this content. There is no way this is casual. Casual players have a life, family committments, jobs and perhaps only a few hours each evening to farm these, and that doesn't allow for all the other more interesting stuff they could be doing in game. This content is for the no life, no job, cellar dwellers who CAN spend all day and all night if they wish....farming these. That, hopefully, is not the demographic of this game, and if it is, then that goes some way to explain the toxic community this game has.

Now get off your high horse and put yourself into the shoes of a guy/gal who has the aforementioned life...tell me if you think it's worth them coming on for a couple of hours and mindlessly grinding for...nothing. As they have a disposable income isn't it likely they would find another more "fun" game to spend it on? A game to relax and enjoy, not to come home from work and replace one grind for another

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

Now get off your high horse and put yourself into the shoes of a guy/gal who has the aforementioned life...tell me if you think it's worth them coming on for a couple of hours and mindlessly grinding for...nothing. As they have a disposable income isn't it likely they would find another more "fun" game to spend it on? A game to relax and enjoy, not to come home from work and replace one grind for another

You know nothing Jon Snow... Welcome to the world of MMORPG's... There were people that did the first coil for months till they got lucky and got their first drop, there are people out there who've done T5 a million times and still never seen their weapon only to finally see it and roll a 4 and lose, my cousin did 70 Crystal Towers coming home after work everyday, and never saw his scholar gloves, there's a man out there in FFXI who played for 4 years and never got enough currency to get his relic weapon... Life's not fair, you enjoy the good, with the bad. How you choose to handle the bad, and if you choose to pick yourself up after shitty things happen is the real question. Do you continue, or do you quit? OP gave his answer.

[Pooky_Pasha]

Funny! The reason we have Atma farming is because they listened to 6 months worth of feedback of posts decrying the lack of long-term goals, any sort of grinding, the lack of open world content, etc. Could they have implemented it better? Absolutely, but every game has more than a handful of content that could have been done better. It's not a FFXIV exclusive problem. The next MMO you go to, there will be just as many QQ threads on how armchair devs can implement content flawlessly (without actually making real suggestions). But quitting because "Square Enix does not listen to its Constituents" is fallacious because it's why we have Atma grinding now.

My hopes were that they would have fixed this issue with patch 2.25 were dashed when at the last minute they decided against it for no good apparent reason...

So where's the source ever saying they were going to revamp the Atma/Animus grind with 2.25? The only thing they said is they are still processing feedback (partly because everybody has to make their own QQ thread instead of keeping it in one thread) and will address it in 2.28 along with the next "Novus" part of the questline. Another fallacious/bogus statement. The truth is they listened and have responded, but it just wasn't what you wanted to hear.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

So Animus implies no challenge? Okay...

I see you have the Stardust on that job yet (Can't tell for your the rest of your jobs)... sooooo...

-Allagan <your weapon> ilvl 95 (Twintania farming) + Ancient Buckler/Onion Shield <If needed> (x3 Ex primal battles).
-Tidal Wave <your weapon> ilvl 100 (The same ilvl than Animus). Requires to beat Leviathan Ex then farm it for mirrors. It'll take less than Atmas and you'll be rewarded with tomes during the process.
-Weathered <your weapon> Soldiery tomes x 1300 (2 weeks and the first day of the 3rd week) + Unidentified Allagan Tomestone (Turn 7 drop: Challenge).
-High Allagan <your weapon> You need to beat T9 = Challenge.

SE doesn't listen to us...?

Letter from the Producer, LVI

"I know some of our players have been looking forward to the continuation of the Zodiac Weapons quests that I mentioned in the recent letter LIVE, but the release of these new quests has been postponed. Our reasoning for this decision is, in brief:
Many players still have yet to obtain an Animus weapon.
We would like to incorporate feedback regarding the difficulty of the Zodiac Weapon quests.
We are working to increase the number of locations where materials for the next upgrade can be obtained.
I apologize for the delay, but those of you looking to obtain the power of "Novus" will be able to do so in patch 2.28, scheduled to release in May."

There're some of your answers. If they don't "fix" the drop rate of the Atma fragments, that's their decision because they're not handing out the Animus so easily (not to mention the cost of every book). If you claim to be hardcore (Or not casual), you might be focused on different and challeging alternatives for your jobs to get your progression. If you're trying to gear multiple jobs, trying to get the Animus is not a good idea at all...

New Gear
Zodiac weapon story is going to start in 2.2 and will continue in all future patches, including minor patches like 2.25 and major patches in 2.3
Zodiac weapons are not easy to do
This weapon will take time to do but there are no restrictions
You can combine Zodiac with other items
You'll eventually be able to customize your Zodiac weapon

It's a totally optional content. Yes, they listented to the complaints. Yes, there're alternatives.

[Gold_Jacobson]

They already responded.

They'll make it easier to get in a coming patch.

If you can't wait that long, then yeah, buzz off.

[Buklohn]

For those who complain about atma obviously the atma grind has challenged your patience and have won that battle. The amount of time you cried about not getting your atma you could have probably gotten it by now. Don't go into a grind thinking you are going to get an atma right away accept that it will take awhile.

[Remnance]

Fiancee has 80+ hours of fate grinding and only 8 atmas. That's two full weeks of a 9-5 job and still not completed. Difference between being rewarded for the work and being shafted. Let me guess. You got yours in 20 hours, so you have nothing to complain about.

[PlanckZero]

It's freaking hilarious to see people still freaking out about content based on a RNG as if this quest is the first instance in the history of video games where such a piece of content ever existed.

I guess this is what SE gets for babying some people through the rest of the game. People got used to quests where you kill an enemy and instantly get the drop you needed. I would love to see what kind of hissy fit these people would have if they tried playing XI in the old days and had to deal with collecting sub job items, coffer keys or LB1 items.