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    Nero's Avatar
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandim View Post
    Just because you and a few dont see a problem with the whole RNG fate grinding , doesnt mean there isnt one.
    Just because you and a few people see a problem with the whole RNG fate grinding, does not mean there is one.

    See what i did there?

    Is there a specific reason why people do want Animus over Tidal, Soldiery or High Allagan Weapons? 4 options to get a Weapon, why choose one you do not like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut View Post
    People pay money to play this game. When you\\'re paying for something you are "entitled" to get what you feel you\\'re paying for. Many folks, myself included, feel the direction SE has taken in regard to the Atma quest is lazy and we are worried the product we are paying for is changing for the worse. Rather than giving up and leaving, we are voicing our concerns so that something may be done about it. If SE\\'s decision is to keep at as is, then we have our answer and we decide if we wan\\'t to continue to give SE our money or not.

    This is funny, you should bold entitled though. You are entitled to nothing but the privilege to connect to their servers. You are at the whim of SE as per the contract you agreed when you signed up. They could delete your characters with no legal repercussions because SE owns it, not you. A large group could influence SE if they began losing money, but no one is entitled to anything.
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    This is what SE can do when new generation players find everything hard to do.

    If SE actually made a hard content to get the Atma/Animus, you think 70% ofplayers would be happy? I mean look how long it took post of them to beat Titan Extreme? People wipe even with these 30-40% boosts. You think if they made weapon farming anywhere closer to Titan;s difficulty people would have it?

    This is SE's way of making unskilled players earn their weapons.

    You want Casual game, you got it.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    This is what SE can do when new generation players find everything hard to do.

    If SE actually made a hard content to get the Atma/Animus, you think 70% ofplayers would be happy? I mean look how long it took post of them to beat Titan Extreme? People wipe even with these 30-40% boosts. You think if they made weapon farming anywhere closer to Titan;s difficulty people would have it?
    This is SE's way of making unskilled players earn their weapons.

    You want Casual game, you got it.
    The big Lag in all fights for many players (not all have the problem also depending on where they live) is the real difficulty.
    For me the lag there is very different, its really hard to adapt to always changing timing (due to lag-variations).
    The main reason many ppl i know fail at titan(X) is, that they cannot even do it, since ppl that have him done, dont want new players doing it, and people in ARR are mostly so impatient, 1-2 fails and they leave.

    On the other hand, having lag as your enemy is far from being fun. Nothing in the game is hard for people without lag.

    I play other games too where you have to be much faster then in ARR BUT the games are workign properly. so if you are out of a line/circle you are out.
    Thats not the case in ARR. Yet they don't fix the content to fit the bad server structure nor do they improve the servers.

    The last tries i had in Tx, i was evading just fine, but if 4 other ppl are lagging really bad, its no point....
    pathetic for a game that is getting so much money at them moment, risking it all in the long run. im waiting for the expansion or a miracle patch to come back. Even though i really doubt it happens. Sadly.
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    Belius Breaks
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    Does anyone remember the dynamic grind for 'those' relics? That's what a real grind looks like. It took a complete exhaustion of pretty much every resource available to you for you to even progress 1% towards completing it. I think people need to shy away from thinking this is a game that will instantly gratify it's player base. At heart, FF is a J-MMO, even if the brand is globalized. In all J-anythings, the grind is part of the game play.
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    So long, and thanks for the fish!
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    Leader of Tonberry Assassins <STAB!> of Coeurl, a social & light raiding FC.
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    Once again ARR was created with PLAYER POLLS that were taken back then in mind. (note, I said IN MIND. Of course it's not based fully off of player base requests.) Since then SE has been in amazing contact with the players.

    I refuse to read anything past, "SE doesn't listen to its player base." (Fixed the grammar for you)


    If you don't like the game then leave! Why post yet another crap stirring thread about the same old complaints that make no sense! Anyone who thinks SE does not communicate with the player base of XIV is just out of their mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    complaints that make no sense
    Of course they don't make sense to you. You're not the one complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Once again ARR was created with PLAYER POLLS that were taken back then in mind. (note, I said IN MIND. Of course it's not based fully off of player base requests.) Since then SE has been in amazing contact with the players.

    I refuse to read anything past, "SE doesn't listen to its player base." (Fixed the grammar for you)
    Oh they do communicate with the player base, but it's rather selective. TBH, they've been really good all the way up 2.2. The most recent patch 2.25 was a complete joke. Addressing an "issue" with ATMA by fixing the color of items is more PR gimmick to create an illusion of acknowledging the actual issue at hand. IMO, that's sloppy and bad customer service. Historically, Yoshi-P goes through an in depth explanation of certain design process. THAT to me is true communication, and I would LOVE to hear his justification for this ATMA design. In its current state, it does not encourage and prohibitive to multi-class progress.
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    Player Rex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by skho01 View Post
    Oh they do communicate with the player base, but it's rather selective. TBH, they've been really good all the way up 2.2. The most recent patch 2.25 was a complete joke. Addressing an "issue" with ATMA by fixing the color of items is more PR gimmick to create an illusion of acknowledging the actual issue at hand. IMO, that's sloppy and bad customer service. Historically, Yoshi-P goes through an in depth explanation of certain design process. THAT to me is true communication, and I would LOVE to hear his justification for this ATMA design. In its current state, it does not encourage and prohibitive to multi-class progress.
    Of course it's selective! When has any company ever said "Here, player base. Come up with your idea of an entire game and we'll make it for you!" This is a company. They make the game, we play it. We are not the developers. We do not have a say in every little thing that comes out of Square Enix, or any game company for that matter.

    "hear the justification for the atma design"


    LOL really..? They have every right to NOT disclose this information to you just because you don't enjoy the system. XIV is one of the only games that allowed you to level multiple jobs on one character. This is hardly "limiting" compared to other MMOs that only allow you to have ONE class or job per character. While I'm at it, it was a good idea to fix the color of atma in your inventory because they were rather flat and did not stand out very well. I don't know what gimmick you're talking about.

    Yoshi-P shared the design process because he knew that it was important to keep the fan's trust that a game that failed was well on its way to a successful relaunch. We're almost a year past the relaunch, the game is a clear success, there is really no reason for him to continue to spill everything for you. But because of a recent announcement he made, it seems we will continue to get the occasional road map for the time being.

    When did people start suddenly thinking this way?

    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    Of course they don't make sense to you. You're not the one complaining.

    What..?
    ...No they don't make sense because there's plenty of proof that we get a ton of communication from SE.
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    Last edited by Rex; 04-29-2014 at 05:34 AM.

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