Time to move on since Square Enix does not listen to its Constituents

[ApolloGenX]

Thats because almost everybody left but if they lose a 1000 and gain 20k I don't SE cares. Just like Wal-Mart doesn't care I don't shop there, burger king doesn't care I don't eat their food, and Microsoft dwsnt care they lost a 10yr die hard Xbox fan due to they policies.

We don't know how many are leaving and joining. They don't release that data... or haven't yet. They just released PS4, subs haven't stabilized.

Only time will tell if players like the direction things are going- if not, I have no doubt they will adjust accordingly.

Meanwhile, in 1.0 people said the same thing- populations are fine - until they aren't. Again, without data, we can't say what impact is... pretending it doesn't matter at all, though is a dangerous proposition.

This company is not Microsoft, and success of this game has been said is critical to their financial wellbeing.

[Macka]

We don't know how many are leaving and joining. They don't release that data... or haven't yet. They just released PS4, subs haven't stabilized.

Only time will tell if players like the direction things are going- if not, I have no doubt they will adjust accordingly.

Meanwhile, in 1.0 people said the same thing- populations are fine - until they aren't. Again, without data, we can't say what impact is... pretending it doesn't matter at all, though is a dangerous proposition.

We do know they are throwing around numbers keft and right did you watch any of their ps4 ads or read any of their comments. Hell they having a Live show in least then 30mins. They seem very content with their numbers.

[CYoung187]

Thats because almost everybody left but if they lose a 1000 and gain 20k I don't think SE cares. Just like Wal-Mart doesn't care I don't shop there, burger king doesn't care I don't eat their food, and Microsoft dwsnt care they lost a 10yr die hard Xbox fan due to they policies.

You should walk in there and start telling everybody why you don't shop there. That will make things better.

[Madruck]

You know, it has been a interesting read for the past 14 pages of all the people who state that it does not matter if I am leaving or not, your right....it does not matter. But here again lies the fact that SE has made a step for progression based solely on Random Number Generation and not based on skill which alot here seemed not to read. If you seriously look at the progress from Relic Ilvl 80 to 90, there is a complete set of challenges to complete that required some form of skill base be it healing, DD, or tanking. To all those who played at launch remembering how getting your relic and trying to down Titan HM over and over again until finally killing him with a good team and feeling like you accomplished something and wearing you piece of gear proudly.

[kidvideo]

It's a one slot item, that has some rng on the last phase. Also, this is just a game.

[Madruck]

Now, once you have done all that, go farm level 10-49 fates for 100+ hours without all your skills that make your class over and over again to get the next step....don't you feel like you achieved something.....really!?!? You cannot compare the tasks you had to complete for Ilvl 80 and 90 to the grind fest you have to endure for Atma, there is no comparison...and if you do then you are either complete liar or really naive!! Also,to the person who stated that Atma is for casuals...are you kidding me? Who in the hell who has kids, a spouse and a full time job maybe playing 3 hours a day have the time to farm 100+ hours but a very select few..Bottom line, state whatever you wish, What I am stating is true....if you don't believe me or if your blind and can't read:http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Upgrade-Quest

129 pages of most people saying the same as I am..but of course, in your mind I am the only one saying this since you want to troll..

[Bufkus]

129 pages of most people saying the same as I am..but of course, in your mind I am the only one saying this since you want to troll..

Lots of people are complaining but they aren't quitting like you are. That's the difference. Enjoy your new casual MMOs whatever they may be. Wildstar?

[Madruck]

Nope, I have never played Wildstar and more than likely never will, I am going to stick to Dark Souls for the time being since in that game at least the grind feels like you earn something and its a complete challenge....

[Zaels]

It's hilarious that now people are whining that relic progression isn't skill based because there were just as much topics whining about Titan HM being too hard a few months ago.

They gave them what they wanted: non skill based relic weapon progression.