Time to move on since Square Enix does not listen to its Constituents

[Mcshiggs]

You are amazingly terrible at reading Yoshida, then.

"One cannot believe Yoshida"? Are you kidding? He's like the most transparent JP game producer around right now. He even comes through on promises he makes even up to a year before initial development. You can take any word he says at any interview as literal gold and truth at this point.

He may have good intentions when he says stuff, but he has failed to follow through many times when it comes to content and release dates, and yes I say him, I know there is a whole development team involved, but he is the one jetting around the world getting all the credit, he is the lead producer, so when something doesn't happen how or when he says it will, then the blame lands on him.

He said Crystal Tower would be ready at release, it wasn't.
He said Free Company and personal housing would be either at release or shortly after, we still have yet to see personal housing.
He said the first patch would roll out in late October, it finally came creeping in in December.
He said we would have free company alliances, we don't.
He said the second part of the zodiak quest would be in 2.25, it wasn't.
He said we would be able to level our chocobos as any job we could have, instead we have the dumbed down 3 tree version.
He said they would have new DirectX compatibility when the PS4 version hit, we don't.
He said FC housing would be cheap enough for 2-3 people to afford from leveling 1 class to 50, we saw how that went down.
I'm sure there's plenty more I'm not thinking of right now, but you get the point.

Now I know all these things he has said and hasn't followed through on weren't directly his fault, but he is the boss, so ultimately it is up to him to get stuff done, if he can't do that, maybe he should be doing a few less PR interviews talking about stuff he can't control, and get back to the offices where he can make sure stuff is getting done.

[Magis]

Taken from Yoshi-P's GDC talk..




So the short answer is a resounding yes.

As a Canadian, I always laugh at the second slide. So where do we go?

The thing is, there are people yelling in the forums on both sides of the fence, this isn't a case of everyone in agreement that Atma sucks. Heck, just look in this thread and there are people saying it's fine.

[ReplicaX]

The thing is, there are people yelling in the forums on both sides of the fence, this isn't a case of everyone in agreement that Atma sucks. Heck, just look in this thread and there are people saying it's fine.

This right here. The issue I have is the topic is all mixed opinion on these forums, every thread has ppl from both sides.

It's why I can't take anyone that states "Majority, Minority" in their posts seriously. Then you have the few that decide making one thread isn't enough, so they make more all with the same exact opinion as the first thread.

[Starlord]

Taken from Yoshi-P's GDC talk..



So the short answer is a resounding yes.

In that case, we should get more open world content then? :P

[Gormogon]

In that case, we should get more open world content then? :P

It should be on a list of priorities.


In another words.

We don't see a "Mod/Dev" specific thread that state a list of concerns that need to be attended and looked into.

In that thread we can see a list of concerns brought up by the community.

Where we get the mods to ask questions and share our visions to the dev team on our behalf.
While we wont get answers immediately hopefully they can work a schedule were at least a couple of questions can get answered weekly.

So we end up with a thread where Mods ask on our behalf and Devs answer.

Keep in mind that these are examples and probabilities of what to expect.

Mod Q: Concerns about open world content. Zones with strong mobs which have specific rewards for what is done in these zones and has no reliance on FATEs. Potential Ballistas events as well?
Developer A: We are looking into how to develop and approach this. Will be a long running project and we'll give a response within 3 months on how it's going and lay a roadmap.

Mod Q: Concerns regarding Egi
Developer A: Some people may not like the Egi and how Summoners are designed. This is our current approach and we apologize to those that don't get that nostalgic feeling from our take on Summoner. In future levels we may attend to this but for now Summoner stays as is.

Mod Q: Concerns regarding the Limit Break system.
Developer A: We understand some of the concerns and there's many passionate responses to this. The Limit Break system may potentially evolve over time. We may look into cross party combination Limit Breaks for Alliances but there wont be any implementation on it at this time we will see if it gets brought into the expansion.

Sadly though we have very little communication between us, the mods, and the dev team. Which makes me sad since an approach like this would literally filter a lot of questions from being repeated constantly during Live Letter questionnaires.

[Sessurea]

There was also a power point at that gcd talk stating: " if it's not fun, you are doing it wrong".

[Sessurea]

I don't argue against atma design as a threat to quit or "move to Canada", I genuinely would like to see the game avoid presenting goals to us which involve brainless rng timesinks.

[Foo01]

Fact - The whole game does NOT ride on ATMA.

Let the RNG people have their RNG. As much as I hate gambling and disapprove of casinos, it is folly to ban them. ATMA RNG is the same way. I don't like RNG timesinks either, but let those people that like it enjoy it. Quit telling them how they like to play. You do NOT need ATMA.

[Sessurea]

Fact - The whole game does NOT ride on ATMA.

+ snip.

People will naturally want atma. They have fond memories of their relic quest, even an attachment to their relic, for how it looks or whatever. For most people it means a lot to them, due to the hard work involved in getting it, spending a week at titan etc... Can agree people do not need to upgrade it, there are other options, but I think this is more than just a weapon upgrade, psychologically...

It's true the game doesn't ride on atma, but one good thing that may come from our constant forum complaint spewings, is that maybe Yoshi will listen and not implement something as absurd as atma again in the future. I actually hate bad mouthing this game in any way, as I really do love it, but hopefully there wont be such a stumble as atma again.

[ApolloGenX]

I find it ironic that the same kind of "see you later- you want everything easy - no one will miss you" posts happened in 1.0.

We all saw how that worked out.

People that make those kinds of posts can't sustain a game by themselves... and they provide zero positive impact for change or community relations.