I was at odds with ATMA, it took me five days to gather all 12, but I wasn't planning on getting them just yet, but why did I? because of the last patch, I was one of the people that keeps getting 9k'd and just attacked with huge lag, so bad can't even do any raid, primal, dungeons, so what else was I gonna do? Gather Atma. Is not that bad, if you don't get an Atma after 30 minutes on one place, you should port to another and try there.