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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80

    SCH question concerning MP consumption vs WHM MP consumption

    DISCLAIMER: I main BLM. My 2nd job is a reasonably equipped SCH (i90) which I run for some endgame content, namely ifrit, garuda, and moogle ex.

    So I was in moogle ex the other day and everything was going well until a new whm joined. He wasn't using esuna for any of the game breaking debuffs (2x moogle go round debuff, and the 3x charm chains debuff) which I feel is the crux of healing that fight.

    After the 3rd wipe, I said to him "hey I need some help dispelling those effects."

    He immediately got defensive, pointing to my mostly full mana pool as an indication that I wasn't pulling my healing weight. I wasn't parsing, so I couldn't argue against his claim with proof.

    But, considering SCH has multiple ways to regen MP as well as multiple heals that don't even consume MP, was I correct in telling him he was full of it? I have my pets embrace macro'd to lustrate, and aldo, as well as having it on its own macro which I use in conjunction with physick when I need to. I also macro whispering dawn to rouse, and often use it in conjunction with succor. As a result, I find it pretty easy to manage my MP and only really dip down to critical levels when I have to raise peeps.

    Our discussion devolved into the typical mmo arguement of "i'm right, you don't get it. No i'm right, you're a noob. L2P. Blacklist, you can have this.. etc etc etc." But like I said, I'm not a healer main, so outside of a few primal endgame encounter (which I normally have no problem healing) my experience is pretty limited.
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Dumb WHM. Unless the SCH plays aggressively with Adloquium (whether or not SCHs should is a can of worms I don't want to open right now), SCHs will generally maintain a higher MP pool than WHMs during healing spurts. If people aren't getting hit by an excessive number of AoEs or otherwise taking unnecessary damage, then WHMs should also maintain a high MP pool as well if they use SoS properly.
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    Felendis Vreer
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Every minute you can actively regen ~900-1000 MP along with your passive regeneration. If you opt to use Energy Drain (for whatever reason) it can be even higher. If you play smart you can go whole fights without dropping below 75% MP. WHM is talking out of his booty hole.

    Also: Healer's job is to heal. If they're complaining about having to heal, for whatever reason, they're doing it wrong.
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    Last edited by givemeraptors; 05-13-2014 at 02:12 PM.

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    BinaryJack's Avatar
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    Jack Magus
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Silly little WHM.
    Ignore and move on.
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