Fair solution to Atmas

[Zaels]

I understand that I cannot progress further into end game without it.

wrong. absolutely wrong.

[m3eansean]

How about the people that trying for 4 weeks and still nada? What do you say to those people that try to at least get ONE at a in that time frame?

I would tell them that we have all been subject to the same mathematical percentage drop rate -- some people play the lottery their whole lives and win nothing

[Rizon]

Yea... Animus weapons are like the fourth best weapon available or something... and considering that people are out there doing Levi EX and second coil without them you're really pushing it to suggest that having the weapon is necessary to progress into endgame... it's necessary to progress into the next tier of weapon come 2.28 or 2.3 but endgame overall? Hardly.

My thoughts with that statement was for 2.3 and the expansion as the upgraded weapons will be needed. Granted mt Zenith is as good as the Animus but later patches will upgrade that and the new weapons will be needed. You cannot get those without Atma first. Acquisition of this type of equipment should be based upon skill and hard work, not pure dumb luck. I believe, in that regards, my statement is accurate.

[PlanckZero]

My thoughts with that statement was for 2.3 and the expansion as the upgraded weapons will be needed. Granted mt Zenith is as good as the Animus but later patches will upgrade that and the new weapons will be needed. You cannot get those without Atma first. Acquisition of this type of equipment should be based upon skill and hard work, not pure dumb luck. I believe, in that regards, my statement is accurate.

Wait... what?

Where on Earth are you reading anything about upgraded weapons being "needed" in 2.3 or in any expansion?

The ONLY thing relic weapons will ever be NEEDED for is further relic weapon upgrades. When 2.3 and any future updates and expansions come along the upgraded weapons will be within the top tier of weapons but there will likely always be alternative weapons available.

Trying to suggest that if you don't have your fully upgraded relic for each update you will be shunned from all further content is just asinine.

[Seiryuukishi]

How about the people that trying for 4 weeks and still nada? What do you say to those people that try to at least get ONE at a in that time frame?

Crap happens?... But seriously though, I've been working on mine since release of patch off and on. The way I see it people asked for longer/harder content. Not mutually exclusive mind you. They got what they wanted. Now we can sit here and talk all day about how this or that could have been done. But let's face it. We saw this coming in some sense. I personally don't have a problem with the system as I have grinded far worse than this, 100 times over. Yoshida did warn us it would take most till next patch to upgrade their relics and he delivered. I won't call anyone a crybaby or elitist. It's pointless to do so. Opinions differ from one to the next. But there is much more to do besides upgrading relics. Could upgrade new armour perhaps?

[Amberion]

I still wonder how many people on this forum lies about how many fates they have done without not getting any drop.

Wondering since some of the once i have read about in the various threads, have so low probability that you have higher luck winning the lottery. Well, unless SE set drop to 0.1% or around there.

[Ranzan]

Crap happens?

This is a very civil response that quiet frankly amazes me. Thank you sir. Well this Atma system is a mess but that is and will be my opinion but if that is my only option to upgrade the weapon that to me I worked for (had to learn how to heal HM primal in 2.0) then so be it. I went the other route but it really hit home when I got the Levi Sch book. It just wasn't the same... I can't explain it but that's how I felt about it. But on another note I find Iit hilarious that some people that have animus are QQing about the quest being pushed back but telling people that are still on the atma phase to stop QQing...

[Zhi]

More content > less even if it's inaccessible , gives more to look forward to