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    No, you want to have GL3 before you do anything else. It's the Biggest damage buff you get. (9% x 3)
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    Last edited by Odowla; 12-22-2014 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    That only gets 2 GL stacks, so no, no it doesnt.
    Well, it gets the third, but delays GL3 for DK and TS, which I don't think is optimal. I'm too lazy to do the math, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Well, it gets the third, but delays GL3 for DK and TS, which I don't think is optimal. I'm too lazy to do the math, though.
    Yes, noted my mistake and edited the post.

    ALSO, i did some testing on the opener I mentioned, it wins overall by about 10 potency per second, which is ~20 dps on my gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Yes, noted my mistake and edited the post.

    ALSO, i did some testing on the opener I mentioned, it wins overall by about 10 potency per second, which is ~20 dps on my gear.
    Try using TS before DK in the opener you listed.
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    I should have mentioned; its Ossums' opener.

    DK > TS because if you miss a GCD, losing DK is a bigger loss than TS since it takes 2 GCD's to get Twins back up, where as it takes 4 for DK, as well as DK is 11% more damage, and Twins is 10%. 11% > 10%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I should have mentioned; its Ossums' opener.

    DK > TS because if you miss a GCD, losing DK is a bigger loss than TS since it takes 2 GCD's to get Twins back up, where as it takes 4 for DK, as well as DK is 11% more damage, and Twins is 10%. 11% > 10%.
    DK is not more damage than TS,
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    Also if you miss a gcd in your opener thats your fault .
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    Was looking for best opener as well and I have same issues that 1 of 10 times, last skill won't pass. Maybe I lose some time insisting on Buffs as I play with joystick and sometimes they just won't cast ;p
    In this case isn't it better, like Odowla said, having DK up as TS can be your second skill in next rotation anyway? One more detail, which isn't about own DPS, DK gives an INT debuff as well which could help tank and party more than your own 10% damage buff.

    Thank you all anyway for the many posts I enjoyed reading and hopefully will help me master my MNK

    Just one last question: What is average DPS for a MNK on dummies (using 2 invigorate) with i114 (i110 weapon)?
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    Magnus Spellbinder
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    Updated stat weights from reddit:

    WD: 9.338
    STR: 1.000
    DET: 0.336
    CRT: 0.214
    SS: 0.206
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercenarri View Post
    Updated stat weights from reddit:

    WD: 9.338
    STR: 1.000
    DET: 0.336
    CRT: 0.214
    SS: 0.206
    We've had these for quite a while. Dervy is the on that updated those numbers, and posted them up here on this thread on the 11th.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Hopefully you guys will appreciate these.

    Stat-Weights for 2.4/2.45 based on EMX's model:

    WD: 9.338
    STR: 1
    DET: 0.336
    CRT: 0.214
    SS: 0.206
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