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    Form Shift (coeurl)> Demolish > (Perfect Balance)> Snap Punch > Snap Punch > Twin Snakes > (Blood for Blood ) > Dragon Kick > (Internal Release) > Snap Punch > (xpot) > Touch of Death > (Elixir Field) > Bootshine > (Howling Fist) > True Strike > (the Forbidden Chakra) > Demolish > (Steel Peak) > Dragon Kick > (Shoulder Tackle) > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch (BFB, IR and pot run out here)

    Edit: video here http://youtu.be/xqZ4PH-lAfw

    Edit 2: Small changes: Form Shift (coeurl)> Demolish > (Perfect Balance)> Snap Punch > (Blood for Blood)> Snap Punch > (Internal Release) > Dragon Kick > (xpot) > Twin Snakes > (Elixir Field) > Snap Punch > (Howling Fist) > Touch of Death > (Steel Peak) > Bootshine > (Shoulder Tackle) > True Strike > (the Forbidden Chakra) > Demolish
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    Edit 2: Small changes: Form Shift (coeurl)> Demolish > (Perfect Balance)> Snap Punch > (Blood for Blood)> Snap Punch > (Internal Release) > Dragon Kick > (xpot) > Twin Snakes > (Elixir Field) > Snap Punch > (Howling Fist) > Touch of Death > (Steel Peak) > Bootshine > (Shoulder Tackle) > True Strike > (the Forbidden Chakra) > Demolish
    This is extremely close to what I've been working with myself. You've got a couple oGCDs in different places than what I've been using, but overall I think your setup is a bit more optimized than mine since I'm still getting used to some of the new things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    ...Edit 2: Small changes:... Demolish > (Perfect Balance)> Snap Punch > (Blood for Blood)> Snap Punch > (Internal Release) > Dragon Kick > (xpot) > Twin Snakes > (Elixir Field) > Snap Punch > (Howling Fist) > Touch of Death > (Steel Peak) > Bootshine > (Shoulder Tackle) > True Strike > (the Forbidden Chakra) > Demolish
    I count 10 GCDs in the above opener.
    If we do the following instead:
    Demo>(PB)>Snap>(B4B)>Snap>(TKick)>Snap>(IR)>Snap>(xPot)>Snap>(HF)>Boot>(SPeak)>Twin>(EField)>Snap>(FChakra)>DK
    also 10 GCDs, that 2nd one came out about 185 potency higher than the first one on paper (taking into account buffs and dot ticks BUT not auto-attacks).
    Anyone mind testing these 2 openers inGame? can lose the xpots for testing purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w153m4n View Post
    Anyone mind testing these 2 openers inGame? can lose the xpots for testing purpose.

    Just looking at potency per second, the TK opener isnt worth it. Top is my opener, bottom TK. These values are ignoring crits & xpot & fists of fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post

    Just looking at potency per second, the TK opener isnt worth it. Top is my opener, bottom TK. These values are ignoring crits & xpot & fists of fire.
    Sweet! Thank for this.
    Although, you applied the full dmg of Demo and TOD at the start of applications in this spreadsheet. I purposely left out TOD and also, put Snap instead of Demo in my 9th GCD there as otherwise, Demo is clipped and I can't delay it since I want to be able to get to DK as quickly as I can.
    My spreadsheet has GCD timer counter and then separate DOT counter (every 3s) for the dot ticks.
    That being said I did measure based on potencies only, so maybe yours one will end up higher still pps-wise.
    (which makes me sad!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by w153m4n View Post
    Sweet! Thank for this.
    Although, you applied the full dmg of Demo and TOD at the start of applications in this spreadsheet. I purposely left out TOD and also, put Snap instead of Demo in my 9th GCD there as otherwise, Demo is clipped and I can't delay it since I want to be able to get to DK as quickly as I can.
    Yup, it's just a model showing the applied potencies not a real pps simulation. ( I also included DK in the dot potency which i just noticed ._.")
    Also I did not include auto attacks, which will deal reduced damage for a good 7 seconds. That's a lot in an only 22 seconds long opener.
    I know it's tempting to include TK, but I've given up at this point :P

    As for in-game testing, last time I tried a TK opener it ended up at around 900 dps, but I don't remember what gear I had. My opener was already 1k+ at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    As for in-game testing, last time I tried a TK opener it ended up at around 900 dps, but I don't remember what gear I had. My opener was already 1k+ at that point.
    Thanks again!
    Now let's start petitioning so TK gets buffed
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    Just looking at potency per second, the TK opener isnt worth it. Top is my opener, bottom TK. These values are ignoring crits & xpot & fists of fire.
    Your numbers are a little off on most of your potency + buff %. After redoing everything , the TK opener is actually much closer to the standard opener (within 430 pot) Now you might say that is still a big deficiency but you also didn't reapply demo toward the end as its going to wear before you can reapply it on the next rotation. You also don't have ToD anywhere on the TK opener.

    Having potency per second isnt really a good way to measure your chart when you have full ticked Dots that shouldn't be, ToD should only have 2 tics running, and none for demo as it doesn't start ticking til after the animation which is about when the next gcd is coming up. Again if you make this chart more accurate youll see the TK opener is on par more than the chart leads to believe.

    I still favor the standard opener though
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    What's the GCD now at 180+?
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    with GL3 2.05 or around that number, without 2.40 once more around that number. do bear in mind this is a very loose approximation
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