The Monk Temple Reborn

[PROBOUND]

Well, I had a few questions on the BG forums about getting it with low skillspeed (its really tight) so I was showing how low you could get it at in terms of skillspeed.

edit- i realise i never linked it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SapovIG92E0 is the video in question shwoing the opener.

So i took some stabs at your opener last night and boy oh boy! You weren't kidding, Tight indeed! Wasn't having much success.

Basically at 388 Skill speed i was not able to keep GL3 up after refreshing Demolish due to the ToD right after PB falls off. I'm a fraction of a second off keeping it up but its soooo tight. I feel as though its possible at that skill speed with more practice as well as using tricks like Animation canceling (something i haven't really practiced). So props to you on that! lol When watching your video it almost looks as though GL3 fell off but somehow you kept it up! lol Do you actually pull this off with random tanks!? lol

This now makes me curious about the Snap Snap Demo method in terms of where they fit in ToD.

[Tatsuo12]

I'm new to MNK, so I can't really tell you for sure... but I was looking for a DPS calculator earlier, and I came across a Japanese DPS calculator. So I looked up your gear on Ariyala(only gets ilvl125 there, so not sure if it's totally right), and then put in into that site.

It's all in Japanese, but you should easily see what's the total DPS. It's under "木人2分DPS", and it says 563 DPS for that.

If that's right, then you're doing okay, but I want to know from someone else here with experience, if this is right... As I have no idea if that Calculator works ^^

I can say though, that food, pots and party buff (did you have party buff?), makes a very big difference in DPS.

Hello! that website is really helpfull but the problem is i have this friend who has the same ilvl as me and weapons and hes pulling 580 without pots or party buff :/ that is what making me feel like something i am doing is wrong.

[SunnyHirose]

This now makes me curious about the Snap Snap Demo method in terms of where they fit in ToD.

It's no different in execution, except that you have about .8 more seconds to refresh GL3.

Something I noticed from the video is that there is an autoattack without the GL3 buff during that gap. Nothing I've theorycrafted accounts for that possibility.

[Odowla]

So i took some stabs at your opener last night and boy oh boy! You weren't kidding, Tight indeed! Wasn't having much success.

Basically at 388 Skill speed i was not able to keep GL3 up after refreshing Demolish due to the ToD right after PB falls off. I'm a fraction of a second off keeping it up but its soooo tight. I feel as though its possible at that skill speed with more practice as well as using tricks like Animation canceling (something i haven't really practiced). So props to you on that! lol When watching your video it almost looks as though GL3 fell off but somehow you kept it up! lol Do you actually pull this off with random tanks!? lol

This now makes me curious about the Snap Snap Demo method in terms of where they fit in ToD.

I usually run more SS than that, so exempting the tank being completetly retard, I usually don't miss it (and you can always delay the ToD if you realize it in time)

[Ossom]

It's no different in execution, except that you have about .8 more seconds to refresh GL3.

Something I noticed from the video is that there is an autoattack without the GL3 buff during that gap. Nothing I've theorycrafted accounts for that possibility.

It's the poison potion that Odowla is using. Using 2 Pots in your opener clips your GCD twice, risking you to lose the GL. Either make sure you're not lagging at all, get a little bit more skill speed ~10 or so, or take out the poison potion from your opener.

[Odowla]

It's the poison potion that Odowla is using. Using 2 Pots in your opener clips your GCD twice, risking you to lose the GL. Either make sure you're not lagging at all, get a little bit more skill speed ~10 or so, or take out the poison potion from your opener.

It shouldn't if you time them right. Just mash the shit out of the buttons and it shouldnt be tooo hard to hit.

[SunnyHirose]

It has nothing at all to do with the potions. If anything, that video is also a demonstration that potions timed properly shouldn't clip your GCD (or delay autoattacks for that matter).

[Shurrikhan]

It has nothing at all to do with the potions. If anything, that video is also a demonstration that potions timed properly shouldn't clip your GCD (or delay autoattacks for that matter).

Depending on one's latency, potions can definitely clip into GCDs. With WTFast up and doing well, I can do this opener at around 356 SS and pots. Without it, I can do it at about the same speed without pots, but need around 410 to do it with double pot. (Just like I still have spare time after a double oGCD on other physical classes with a latency reducer, but cut a good .3 to .5 seconds into the following GCD without one. The animation lock from oGCDs varies quite a bit with latency.)

Edit: 376 SS, sorry, not 356.

[Ossom]

It has nothing at all to do with the potions. If anything, that video is also a demonstration that potions timed properly shouldn't clip your GCD (or delay autoattacks for that matter).

Timed properly? How do you time it correctly? You should be mashing the potion while the animation for the current GCD is still going on.. There is no timed properly, it's more "Am I lagging or not?". Potions can and will clip you unless you have good latency.

Someone said they can't do the rotation 100% of the time at 388 SS, My rotation has the same issue, but I don't lose GL ever because I only use an X-potion, no poison potion. So I don't lose that fraction of a second. I put my ToD right after the PB. It's the Poison Potion that makes it risky at low SS.

[Odowla]

Timed properly? How do you time it correctly? You should be mashing the potion while the animation for the current GCD is still going on.. There is no timed properly, it's more "Am I lagging or not?". Potions can and will clip you unless you have good latency.

Someone said they can't do the rotation 100% of the time at 388 SS, My rotation has the same issue, but I don't lose GL ever because I only use an X-potion, no poison potion. So I don't lose that fraction of a second. I put my ToD right after the PB. It's the Poison Potion that makes it risky at low SS.

Don't get me wrong, any significant amount lower than that and you /wont/ be hitting it at all on that refresh, 388 is pretty much the limit.